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Old 11-23-2012, 07:21 AM
 
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You provide much bluster and no substance. You do not provide any reason to think that your opinions on these matters are of any interest or founded in facts.
Thank you for your concession.

The simple fact is that the "trial" of Jesus - such as it were - in no way shape or form reflects any kind of Roman trial. It was crowd control. Riot suppression. That is all.

Sorry to burst your bubble - even though you'll claim it's still intact.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Default Christian scam

The entire scam would have never happend if Christ died of old age and a surpluss of virgins.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Something I found surprising about Ancient Rome was that they knew about and had semi-regular contact and trade with Ancient China.

Romano-Chinese relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 12-16-2015, 05:18 PM
 
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If any of y'all say anything about Jesus it better be respectful. Believers or not.
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Old 12-16-2015, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Aloverton
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If any of y'all say anything about Jesus it better be respectful. Believers or not.
That is not an edict you have the right to issue and have taken seriously.
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Old 12-17-2015, 12:00 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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If any of y'all say anything about Jesus it better be respectful. Believers or not.
Gee, if it isn't the Christian Taliban.


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Old 12-17-2015, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Southeast Michigan
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Both are right.
Jesus was executed by Romans instigued by Jews, as said here, they took a political decision to avoid insurrection.
If it were for Romans, he would have lived since they viewed him sympathetically, just as another crazy and not dangerous Jewish crackpot with Roman friends.
Romans did not give a crap anout theology, but they held in high respect "older cultures", and certainly Romans granted many provileges to Jews for that reason, and because they wanted Pax Romana and the place was always about to explode.
Later, when Christianism became Roman, the guilt was shifted entirely to Jews....
The Romans didn't give a damn about other cultures, neither were they always willing to avoid the riot.

Any Roman with half a brain who spent more than a week in Judea would know that forcing the Jews to put a statue of Emperor inside their Holy Temple and to treat it like God would incide an immediate riot. It's like asking Christians to put Devil's likeness in churches and praise him. Yet that's exactly what the Romans did just a couple decades after Christ.

If the whole story is true, it reeks of the power play between Pilate and the Sanhedrin, with Jesus being used as a chess piece.

Another interesting thing I read - although I can't say if it's true - is that the "bandid" whom the crowd chose to be released instead of Jesus was not a common bandit at all, but a zealot (resistance fighter in modern speak). By the way, it's interesting how the whole existence of Zealots - a major force in Judea at that time - is not mentioned in Gospels (correct me if I'm wrong). It's like someone wrote a book where events are happening in the Northern Ireland in 1970s yet completely failed to mention the IRA. Some of Jesus followers are armed even thought it was forbidden for the ordinary Jews to be armed at that time.

I think someone really ought to look at the events described in the Gospels from purely political / historical perspective.
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Old 12-19-2015, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico
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Most people aren't interested in history to begin with, or know what they ''know" thanks to Hollywood or what they see on YouTube.
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Old 12-21-2015, 03:38 AM
 
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Could anyone give some reasons why the Roman had so much knowledge as well as make a huge scientific contribution to the mankind ?
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Old 12-21-2015, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Southeast Michigan
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Could anyone give some reasons why the Roman had so much knowledge as well as make a huge scientific contribution to the mankind ?
I don't know if I'd call it "scientific". Their incredible advances were primarily in all things practical - I think Greeks had more interest in abstract science.

The Romans were well educated as a society (compared to the Middle Ages Europe). They were very well organized, with a strong central government that was always open to the better ways of doing things that benefited them. And they were always willing to learn from others, and adapt the advances of other cultures. They had an open mind when it came to the things "not made here", unlike many other societies.
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