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There some sort of challenges in filling those work positions 100% Nazi qualified candidates?
And why before Nazi era were certain jobs filled so disproportionately by Jews? Was it that the Jews statistically had more wealth to afford law school learning and/or family connections in trade professions ? Or were these not desired jobs for other non-Jews in Vienna?
First and foremost I must make clear Jews did nothing wrong …. They abided by the previous system they lived under and earned their credentials and made the right choices to qualify and become eligible to earn the job titles they received. My question is more were these not desired professions for non-Jews and after the purge of the Jews how have these professions perhaps changed in Vienna? Did the new lawyers after the war ever out of curiosity want to reach out to surviving from the Holocaust former Jewish lawyers for insight? Did other lawyers lose something from the removal of brainy individuals pointlessly from
Their professions just because they were Jewish?
I see the issue a little better now I think. It was always the case that some adequate small number of non-Jewish Viennese were lawyers by choice. More could decide to be lawyers or be some other craft or what not. If the country needed 3,000 more lawyers and absent all Jews, it was a relatively small % of the urban population to be on board to fill those spots.
But for the Jews, the % in medicine law and engineering constituted a MAJOR significant portion of the Jewish population. It was a more attractive profession for Jews as many were familiar with other forms of legal practices from Talmud and Jewish rabbinical studies and it was a means of securing family wealth absent other means to obtain authority as a minority grouping.
So this is sad to say but it was not much of a gain or change for the non-Jewish Viennese that a few more legal positions came available but a HUMONGOUS blow for the Jewish population among many much worse atrocities that followed in the years afterwards.
Small gain for a massive loss. And of course there’s no finite quota restricting how many non-Jews could go into law so even if the Jews weren’t banned from these professions, it wasn’t much a hurdle anyhow for a non-Jew to decide to be a lawyer, so it’s just a lose lose what was done.
Not only did Jews not hoard these positions as a nation, they even acted so impartially in these positions that even later on, Nazis on trial internationally had defense lawyers who were Jewish and advocating to win cases for Nazi clients such as “for so and so there’s doubt in the charges filed against them because they didn’t have decision-making authority and simply was a librarian in Auschwitz … or that sort of defense advocating “
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I see the issue a little better now I think. It was always the case that some adequate small number of non-Jewish Viennese were lawyers by choice. More could decide to be lawyers or be some other craft or what not. If the country needed 3,000 more lawyers and absent all Jews, it was a relatively small % of the urban population to be on board to fill those spots.
But for the Jews, the % in medicine law and engineering constituted a MAJOR significant portion of the Jewish population. It was a more attractive profession for Jews as many were familiar with other forms of legal practices from Talmud and Jewish rabbinical studies and it was a means of securing family wealth absent other means to obtain authority as a minority grouping.
So this is sad to say but it was not much of a gain or change for the non-Jewish Viennese that a few more legal positions came available but a HUMONGOUS blow for the Jewish population among many much worse atrocities that followed in the years afterwards.
Small gain for a massive loss. And of course there’s no finite quota restricting how many non-Jews could go into law so even if the Jews weren’t banned from these professions, it wasn’t much a hurdle anyhow for a non-Jew to decide to be a lawyer, so it’s just a lose lose what was done.
Not only did Jews not hoard these positions as a nation, they even acted so impartially in these positions that even later on, Nazis on trial internationally had defense lawyers who were Jewish and advocating to win cases for Nazi clients such as “for so and so there’s doubt in the charges filed against them because they didn’t have decision-making authority and simply was a librarian in Auschwitz … or that sort of defense advocating “
Are you saying it was the fault of the Jewish people that so many were educated and professional?
What's your point? Are you asking if the Viennese people suffered hardships when the Jewish lawyers were not allowed to practice?
It is a strange question that only a specialist historian would really know. Even I, a German, do not know the answer.
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Originally Posted by James Austen
From what I've read in histories of that period the Jews were banned from many professions
Starting in 1933, Jews were forbidden to hold high level positions, with professional work being forbidden in 1936. These rules had the knock on effect, in 1937, university students required a signed statement saying they had not been taught by Jewish tutors before they were issued their doctorates.
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