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Old 02-01-2023, 05:45 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Right. Good observation. What you're asking is: "if this is such a simple, basic principle, why aren't doctors offering it, rather than providing a band-aid approach, like ibuprofen? Why are they only treating the symptoms and not the underlying cause?"
No, I'm saying doctors DO regularly prescribe progestogen pills in the form of progestin birth control (progestin just being a synthetic progestogen, it's essentially the same thing). I'm not sure where you got the idea that they don't commonly do this, and I didn't actually ask a question about it.

My OBGYN recommended Ibuprofen first because it can be less expensive (depending on your insurance), not a hormone that can come with various unwelcome side effects, and because she suspected the main thing causing my nausea and vomiting was actually inflammation and Ibuprofen is an anti-inflammatory. There were other reasons I personally didn't want to go back on the birth control pill at the time that I won't get into but suffice to say it was not a "band-aid approach". It was at least partly in attempt to treat the cause, not just the symptoms, and it did work, it just got to the point where I was taking too much Ibuprofen for safe long term use. Eventually, my need for another treatment outweighed my personal reasons for not wanting to go back on the pill.

I don't need you to tell me why my OBGYN prescribed what she did when she did, especially when your assumptions are all wrong and your claims that doctors don't prescribe hormonal treatments when necessary unless asked are absurd. I will grant you that it's not normally primary care doctors prescribing it but that's because it's a specialty issue for a specialist like an OBGYN. Anyone with menstrual problems should see their OBGYN where the birth control pill (including a progestin-only pill) is very commonly used to treat different menstrual problems. It's not some kind of well kept secret that even those silly doctors with their medical degrees have only ever heard about, and it's certainly not something "usually only doctors who don't accept insurance who offer to their patients." That's not even remotely true.
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Old 02-02-2023, 03:54 AM
 
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That must've been even more awful without indoor plumbing. That's got to be one of the greatest and most civilizing inventions of all time. If I could live in any era other than the one I'm in, my biggest prerequisite, other than not having to live and fight through a major world war, would be that there be indoor plumbing.
And toilet paper,of course!

I heard on "How It's Made" that some people used to wipe their butts with corn cobs
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Old 02-02-2023, 04:22 AM
 
Location: Gettysburg, PA
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And toilet paper,of course!

I heard on "How It's Made" that some people used to wipe their butts with corn cobs
Yep. The book I read related that it was "leaves or newspapers". And with how water wasn't readily available as easily as it is now, it seems apparent that things didn't get that cleaned up in that area. I mean, maybe people took like a bowlful when they went, but haven't read anything about it (and then this could all just be me thinking waaaay too much into these kinds of things and getting everyone even more grossed out).

Some people romanticize the pre-modern days but my first thought about those days is lack of indoor plumbing (at least for nearly everyone; I've heard of some very rudimentary forms some people have commented on, sources I can't say are great. But those kinds if they were there wouldn't pass as anything to what we have now) and all that comes with that. That comes at the top for me. I'll take all the chaos and busyness and all the other negatives of the modern-age (the loneliness driven by modern technology doesn't bother me because I'm an extremely anti-social introvert) just because of the advantage of indoor plumbing.
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Old 02-02-2023, 07:37 AM
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Location: ^##
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All we do now is put off the inevitability of pain and death for a few more years, while at the same time inventing new things to make us sick. In addition to that, we’ve come up with deadly weapons that could annihilate pretty much everyone if it came to that.
Refrigeration and clean water probably contribute to longer lifespans more than anything.
I’m glad we have those.
Also, basic understanding of nutrition and what not to do or eat. Beyond that, most of modern life seems rather silly.
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Old 02-02-2023, 11:59 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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When you live in a world of hard labor and primitive medical practices you still go on with life as there is no alternative. People today exist in a world where bone grinding labor and poor health is minimized by technology. In our so called modern world our pain is psychological and mental. Alienation and distancing from the traditional family structure and shared community values.
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