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Old 05-07-2010, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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How many Blacks in the South owned white slaves?
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Old 05-07-2010, 09:48 PM
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I think many more blacks were capable of slave owning. It was common when you read letters that slaves wrote to one another. They always requested for a relative to buy them out of slavery. Some blacks bought themselves and their family’s freedom. One slave saved around $20,000 to do this. So technically they could have just as easily invested in slaves which would have been a wise business decision.

(Yes quite a few could read and write. the law forbidding teaching a slave to read or write was passed in the 1840’s after the "Walker Appeal")
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Old 05-07-2010, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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Their were quite a few black slave owners that were in it for the money too, and some of them were very wealthy and known to be more cruel than the worst of the white slave owners. Some of them hired slave catchers to bring back escaped slaves, whipped their slaves, supported the confederate cause in the war every way they could. Not saying this was the norm, but of the free slaves in the south, more of them owned slaves as a percentage of their numbers than whites, especially New Orleans. I've read from various links about some of the black slave owners, heres an interesting one, kind of shocking to read but a part of the history of american slavery none the less.

Black Slave Owners Civil War Article by Robert M Grooms
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Old 05-08-2010, 02:26 AM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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Well, if there were white slaves this changes my whole idea of history. I think us whites should be entitled to something, MY ANCESTORS WERE TREATED LIKE THIS!
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Old 05-08-2010, 02:33 AM
 
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Blacks indeed owned slaves. Blacks have perpetuated slavery, they are doing it right now in other countries. Slavery still exists today but all we hear about is what happened a long time ago in this Country. See, this is all financial.

Blacks don't want equality. They never did. They are against "separate but equal" because they stand for "separate but better." They will always want special treatment because they are special....especially disconnected that is.

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Old 05-08-2010, 07:35 AM
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Ssshhhh. Quiet. Don't ever talk about negative things that blacks do. They have a lifetime pass to do whatever they want....except in certain places where they are not welcome. (And yes, there are places where whites are not welcome but recognising this would be speaking about reality and not pandering to the "poor me black" attitude.)

Blacks indeed owned slaves. Blacks have perpetuated slavery, they are doing it right now in other countries. Slavery still exists today but all we hear about is what happened a long time ago in this Country. See, this is all financial.

Blacks don't want equality. They never did. They are against "separate but equal" because they stand for "separate but better." They will always want special treatment because they are special....especially disconnected that is.
I wondered how long it would take before a history thread would melt down into current racial commentary. Maybe there's a thread in the Automotive forum on "Black" cars you can visit also.
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Old 05-08-2010, 08:42 AM
 
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I find this thread to be very racist. I don't believe it belongs in "History" and perhaps not on CD at all.
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Old 05-08-2010, 10:05 AM
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The problem with discussing slavery is everybody wants to look back into history and place current values on slave owning. At one time it was considered a sin to loan money. Trust me, one day people will talk about how barbaric we are because companies ask men and women to go into an underground "bomb" or get blown up on an oil rig so we can drive escalades and have cold air in our home in the summer.

The problems with labor today in America are very similar to the economics of plantation life. for the planter and the slave. How easy was it to walk off a plantation? Pretty easy, in fact it is just as easy for a coal miner to walk off the job today. The slave lived where the only way to make a living is on a plantation. It is the same thing for an Auto worker, oil field worker and coal miner. You can quit working for one coal mine a go to work in another. There are many excellent books on slave economics.
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Old 05-08-2010, 10:37 AM
 
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How many Blacks in the South owned white slaves?
About 10%-12% of slave owners were blacks.

Also rarely discussed is pre-Civil War free black villages and towns in the South. They were anywhere from 80 to 2,000 people in size.

And yes, the Amerindian slave thing is also rarely discussed. The French at Fort Detroit had to mediate a peace agreement between the various Amerindian tribes in the Great Lakes Region between the constant wars between the tribes over slaves was interferring with everything.
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Old 05-08-2010, 01:21 PM
 
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And yes, the Amerindian slave thing is also rarely discussed. The French at Fort Detroit had to mediate a peace agreement between the various Amerindian tribes in the Great Lakes Region between the constant wars between the tribes over slaves was interferring with everything.
Who were the slaves in these areas?
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