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Old 05-19-2012, 02:05 PM
 
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Awesome topic! Without reading pages 2-5 of this thread, I'll give this one a shot. Keep in mind I'm a child of the 80's and 90's.



1990's- Lasted from 1992-2000. Began when Nirvana, alternative rock, and gangsta rap's The Chronic jump-started the music industry which was on life support by '91. Teenage boys traded their daisy-dukes for sagging shorts that went past their knees. The 90's was a very peaceful, innocent decade defined by a good economy.

Right, except for that the 90ies were the times of ( unnoticed by the common public for the most part) major changes in the social policies in the US, that took place short after the collapse of the Soviet Union ( hint - no need to pretend any longer to be "kinder, gentler capitalist society may be?)
It was time of growing power of multinational corporations as well, slowly but surely behind the scene. It all became quite obvious and more pronounced by the 2000ies, when people finally started taking a note.


PS. Oh, and good music that was a sure sign of the eighties has been replaced by the desperate howling of Nirvana; no comments on rap and "alternative rock" at this point.

 
Old 05-19-2012, 02:13 PM
 
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Right, except for that the 90ies were the times of ( unnoticed by the common public for the most part) major changes in the social policies in the US, that took place short after the collapse of the Soviet Union ( hint - no need to pretend any longer to be "kinder, gentler capitalist society may be?)
It was time of growing power of multinational corporations as well, slowly but surely behind the scene. It all became quite obvious and more pronounced by the 2000ies, when people finally started taking a note.


PS. Oh, and good music that was a sure sign of the eighties has been replaced by the desperate howling of Nirvana; no comments on rap and "alternative rock" at this point.
All of that was happening steadily since 1981 when Reagan took office. Not much has changed since, except that things have been sped up. I don't see what the Soviet Union collapsing did to change anything in the U.S. Maybe we were less scared, but I don't see what policies it affected.
 
Old 05-19-2012, 02:40 PM
 
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The first decade of the 2000's has not really ended yet. The music has not changed. It remains to be scene when we enter into the next decade.
Hmmmm, you don't see Skrillex, Ellie Goulding, Carly Rae Jepsen, and so on as musically representing the 2010s?

Also fashion is starting to change away from 90s looks finally. I see way more color in clothing and design than I used to. Everyone in the past few years seem to be wearing more blue, especially teal, and also more pink.
 
Old 05-19-2012, 02:59 PM
 
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Here is my definition of every "cultural decade":

1. 1950s: 1954-1964. The beginnings of doo wop, desegregation, and cars with fins started in 1954.

2. 1960s: 1964-1974, because The Beatles had started in 1962 but never achieved fame in America until 1964. Muscle cars like the GTO and color pictures/movies/TV became the norm around 1964. Disco never existed until circa 1974, so I think that was the start of the true 70's. But glam rock was the main musical trend between when The Beatles broke up and disco started. The new movie "Dark Shadows" set in 1972 has a glam rock soundtrack, but only clips of songs appear.

3. 1970s: 1974-1984, but this is another tricky one. I consider 1984 to be the beginning of the true 80's, so not really part of the 70's. Disco was still "cool" for a while in the early 80's. Cars started to get a lot more modern around 1984 too. I also notice a certain architectural style which was very popular from 1974-1980 but not after that. A lot of malls built in this era have brick on the outside that looks like tree bark.

4. 1980s: 1984-1994, but I was tempted to say 1984-1992 (1992 would have been a transitional year). CDs were replacing records during this era.

5. 1990s: either 1992-2002 or 1994-2002. 90's music was dominated by two elements: alternative rock and hip hop. REM, Nirvana, Green Day, Red Hot Chili Peppers, BNL, Oasis, and Counting Crows were the leading alternative rock groups. The hip hop scene was dominated by females at first. For example TLC, En Vogue, Mary J Blige. Even the song "Too Funky" by George Michael was a 1992 hit which gave us a taste of the early hip hop sound. Later Tupac and Biggie Smalls/Notorious BIG would be the "James Deans" of hip hop. Around 1999 we started to hear Britney Spears and Nsync who faded around 2002. What I remember about the early 90's was that cars started to get less boxy. I really liked the smaller 1994- GM pickups/smaller 1995- GM SUVs which were a lot more stylish than their predecessors. Same with the 1996-2000 Dodge/Plymouth/Chrysler vans. Chrysler Corporation also started to get rid of the old star logo around this time. Each division got their own logo. Chrysler had the gold medallion, Plymouth had the sailboat in a circle, and Dodge had the ram's head.
 
Old 05-19-2012, 03:35 PM
 
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Also, I find it really important to add what I noticed about the 80's. I rather would go back to the 50's/60's/70's because shopping was more of a pleasure then. Small town shopping centers were more popular before 1980. As soon as the 80's started, malls really started popping up all over urban areas. Mall shopping is more "trendy" but a lot of malls have crime issues. But malls first started to catch on around 1966, and even more around 1974. Department store chains like Macy's started in the 1920s/early 30's though, and a LOT of department stores were built in the late 40's and 50's. So I think the beginnings of mall "culture" go way back.

Also, the Chrysler star was still used in advertising and on car keys/steering wheels until Chrysler again started to change. Daimler had bought them and upgraded their car portfolio around 2000-2001. Plymouth, a division which used excessive "badge engineering" with Dodge and the Chrysler division, was scrapped during this transition. Eagle was scrapped right after the DaimlerChrysler merger in 1998. Oldsmobile was also a "redundant" brand, and was discontinued by its owner GM in 2004.

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Old 05-19-2012, 04:08 PM
 
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Here is my definition of every "cultural decade":

1. 1950s: 1954-1964. The beginnings of doo wop, desegregation, and cars with fins started in 1954.

2. 1960s: 1964-1974, because The Beatles had started in 1962 but never achieved fame in America until 1964. Muscle cars like the GTO and color pictures/movies/TV became the norm around 1964. Disco never existed until circa 1974, so I think that was the start of the true 70's. But glam rock was the main musical trend between when The Beatles broke up and disco started. The new movie "Dark Shadows" set in 1972 has a glam rock soundtrack, but only clips of songs appear.

3. 1970s: 1974-1984, but this is another tricky one. I consider 1984 to be the beginning of the true 80's, so not really part of the 70's. Disco was still "cool" for a while in the early 80's. Cars started to get a lot more modern around 1984 too. I also notice a certain architectural style which was very popular from 1974-1980 but not after that. A lot of malls built in this era have brick on the outside that looks like tree bark.

4. 1980s: 1984-1994, but I was tempted to say 1984-1992 (1992 would have been a transitional year). CDs were replacing records during this era.

5. 1990s: either 1992-2002 or 1994-2002. 90's music was dominated by two elements: alternative rock and hip hop. REM, Nirvana, Green Day, Red Hot Chili Peppers, BNL, Oasis, and Counting Crows were the leading alternative rock groups. The hip hop scene was dominated by females at first. For example TLC, En Vogue, Mary J Blige. Even the song "Too Funky" by George Michael was a 1992 hit which gave us a taste of the early hip hop sound. Later Tupac and Biggie Smalls/Notorious BIG would be the "James Deans" of hip hop. Around 1999 we started to hear Britney Spears and Nsync who faded around 2002. What I remember about the early 90's was that cars started to get less boxy. I really liked the smaller 1994- GM pickups/smaller 1995- GM SUVs which were a lot more stylish than their predecessors. Same with the 1996-2000 Dodge/Plymouth/Chrysler vans. Chrysler Corporation also started to get rid of the old star logo around this time. Each division got their own logo. Chrysler had the gold medallion, Plymouth had the sailboat in a circle, and Dodge had the ram's head.
I take no issue with anything you said. I would only add that you forgot to mention the early 90's West Coast rap artists that put out great CD's in 1992-1994. The Chronic album is one of the best ever. Artists like Snoop Doggy Dog, Dr. Dre, and Ice Cube really defined early 90's rap.

It seemed that both rap music and alternative music suddenly exploded in 1992 or so. Before 1992, rock music was pretty bad for a while. I would also add bands like Pearl Jam and Sublime to your list. They were juggernauts in the mid-90's alternative scene.
 
Old 05-19-2012, 04:21 PM
 
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I think all the changes of the 1920s never would have happened if electricity never were invented. Electricity is probably the only way I can relate to people from the 20's 30's and 40's. If it weren't for electricity the whole world would be Amish.
 
Old 08-25-2012, 02:42 PM
 
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1991.
And 90's ended in 2001.
10's are really just an extension of the 2000's.
 
Old 08-29-2012, 02:31 PM
 
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After Miami Vice ended, not to mention when grunge took over in 1991 and 1992/1993 is when who's the boss, knots landing, cheers and others went off the air.
The 80's was the last glory era in television.


Miami Vice - Freefall - YouTube
 
Old 08-29-2012, 02:37 PM
 
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Right, except for that the 90ies were the times of ( unnoticed by the common public for the most part) major changes in the social policies in the US, that took place short after the collapse of the Soviet Union ( hint - no need to pretend any longer to be "kinder, gentler capitalist society may be?)
It was time of growing power of multinational corporations as well, slowly but surely behind the scene. It all became quite obvious and more pronounced by the 2000ies, when people finally started taking a note.


PS. Oh, and good music that was a sure sign of the eighties has been replaced by the desperate howling of Nirvana; no comments on rap and "alternative rock" at this point.
and Nerdvana set the stage for crappy nu metal, emo and pop punk of the 90's to today.
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