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Um Is It Surprising To Anybody That A Lot Of These Real People And Places Are All Referenced In The Stargate SG-1 Show, I Mean Apparently The Retu Were A Real People And Naquada Was A Real Place Although In Stargate Naquada Is A Element And Not A Place And The Retu Were A Alien Bug Type Species And Not Human However The Fact They Choose To Use Real Names Of Places And Things In The Show Really Make You Wonder How Much The Governments Of This World Really Know And Are Covering Up....
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The first major civilization was Babel, and they were split for defying god just as any and every other civilization that does defy god will be. We may build anything our imaginations set themselves upon, unless it is to find or build protection from god; that is indeed, impossible.
It should be noted that some of the dates and theories proposed in this thread have been disputed by other experts. This included the date and severity of the Black Sea Flood as well as the age of the Sphinx.
Anyway, I want to return to the original idea of this thread, "what came before ancient Egypt or Sumer".
At least in Egypt, there is a growing body of archaeologic evidence that people for the Sahara had developed beyond simple hunter - gatherer societies and developed some established communities. As climate change dried up these areas, those people would have been forced to migrate to areas better able to sustain life. One of the obvious areas would have been the Nile river valley. The could well have been the precursor to Egyptian society.
It should be noted that some of the dates and theories proposed in this thread have been disputed by other experts. This included the date and severity of the Black Sea Flood as well as the age of the Sphinx.
Anyway, I want to return to the original idea of this thread, "what came before ancient Egypt or Sumer".
At least in Egypt, there is a growing body of archaeologic evidence that people for the Sahara had developed beyond simple hunter - gatherer societies and developed some established communities. As climate change dried up these areas, those people would have been forced to migrate to areas better able to sustain life. One of the obvious areas would have been the Nile river valley. The could well have been the precursor to Egyptian society.
There was a fascinating show on I think PBS about this dry lake bed in the Sahara. I think it was called the ? sands of the Sahara. It had just sat for hundreds of years, undisturbed, and uninhabited, when there was digging/drilling, don't remember how, but a very ancient skull was found. There were other bones and it was posed as if buried. Then they dug out and found at least five other burials, including one with an infant and mother.
They took them home and retruned the next year and eventually expanded the dig. The remains they first found were much older than Egypt. They had lived in a wet area as well, and near water. They continued to dig and found hundreds of burials, and moving out of the area, evidence that it had been inhabited by a large number of people.
They lived during the time period before the Sahara became desert, when it was a lush and green land. With later burials, there were signs of conflict and likely a much dryer area. But a whole civilization had lived and died and been buried under sand. Artifacts later found of the same age suggested that they may have influenced a wide area as they fled.
When the survivors abandoned it, its been speculated that they likely moved towards the nile region since behind them was just more desert and they may have settled there. There were also much later gravesites near the others, where there was water but less, and the burial methods were very different, so that area had rotating wet/dry periods until it became just desert and sand.
The ancient lake had been huge at one point, and the water that made it up now sits in the aquafer under the sahara being pumped up to the surface to support modern habitation.
All this about weathering on the Sphinx is fringe nonsense by Robert Shoch/Graeme Hancock and not excepted by the geological community. You can find explanations for the weathering if you have the initiative to look even on Wiki.
There were peoples in the Green Sahara, who seemed to practice mummification and fairly complex funerary rites. There is no evidence that they built monumental architecture, had writing, or any of the other things we associate with Egypt. Please don't bother with the "could have" and "maybe." Anything could have been or might have been, and we do history by proving it.
As for what came before Egypt and Sumer, we have a thread going on it:
Nothing fringe about this. No Graeme Hancock needed:
Oldest gold working in the world- proven fact
Most advanced copper working- Fact
First Wheel- fact
Trade networks- fact
Agriculture- fact
Largest cities in the world- fact
Iron working- newly proven
Two story houses- fact
Astronomical/calendar knowledge- fact
Stone walls- newly proven
First proto writing- highly probably. Still being debated but is looking soild.
Feel free to peruse the thread and discover old Europe.
well ive tried to study all our fake history and go back as far as i can which is so difficult as information is hidden . from what i can make out its thousands of years at least , if anyone can put me on the path of the real ancient history pre egypt infact pre 12000 years . thank you in advance .
well ive tried to study all our fake history and go back as far as i can which is so difficult as information is hidden . from what i can make out its thousands of years at least , if anyone can put me on the path of the real ancient history pre egypt infact pre 12000 years . thank you in advance .
I think that modern remote sensing will continue to guide archaeologists to new discoveries in the Sahara in years to come, as the political conditions allow. Those discoveries may answer a lot of your questions.
There is virtually no doubt that early predynastic Egypt was influenced by Sumerian civilization. That doesn't mean that each don't have their own unique historical/prehistorical precedents. Read:
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