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I think all American taxpayers are also slaves as there is evidently no law that says we are required to pay taxes (some ex-IRS agents have confirmed that).
This is absurd. Every tax is passed in the form of a law, just what do you think legislatures and city councils are doing?
Note that the Constitution grants Congress the power to levy taxes. As for income tax here's the Sixteenth Amendment to the Constitution.....
"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."
The answer is easy.
The North would have invaded the South helped by Southeners and they would have killed every black.
No second Haiti.
You must take into account that Haiti was alive in the minds of all.
After the last of a succession of slave revolts which occurred with some regularity for nearly 100 years, Slave owners blamed the North for the Nat Turner Rebellion, If any rebellion would of shown any promise, What makes you think the north would not of fought against the whites as of course they did nearly a generation later? What would they do with all the plantations if they killed every black,force white people to work?The slave population in the south knew of their economic value. Slavery was important phase in labor history in the US. It was ,if you will, a blue print for our current system. Some Sociologist believe after 100 years of unsuccessful violent overthrow by the slaves themselves , passive resistance was more effectively used by slaves to make slave owning a "worrisome" business
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The slave population would grown so large that a Haitian like revolt would be inevitable. Several larger revolts, especially the Stono Rebellion of 1739, were very close to convincing enough slaves the victory was likely to get the masses to join. Had the Stono Rebellion succeed at the Battle of the Edisto River either an independent Black country would have emerged or (more likely) Spain would be provided arms and troops to support the rebels and take over the SE coast of the US.
The non slave Spanish Empire contuned pestering the British/ American plantations as it was by providing freedom to any slaves the escaped to its borders
The non slave Spanish Empire contuned pestering the British/ American plantations as it was by providing freedom to any slaves the escaped to its borders
The Spaniards may have provided freedom to escaped American slaves but on the other hand I think slavery itself was legal in Spanish possessions at the time it was legal here and indeed lasted somewhat longer than American slavery.
President Jefferson Davis wanted slavery ended. He just wasn't going to go out and say that all the slaves are free. He wanted to do what was right, educate them, and then integrate them into society.
Had the South won, I believe that by 1900 the CSA would have been a fully integrated society.
President Jefferson Davis wanted slavery ended. He just wasn't going to go out and say that all the slaves are free. He wanted to do what was right, educate them, and then integrate them into society.
Had the South won, I believe that by 1900 the CSA would have been a fully integrated society.
Not without help from the Zorcanian Armada which was unfortunately for Davis locked in combat in the Colusian Nebula.
Had the South won, I believe that by 1900 the CSA would have been a fully integrated society.
This defies logic. The South could have fully integrated itself any time it wanted, before or after the war, had the aristocracy wished it so. Instead it fought a ruinous war to avoid integration, then dug in its heels every step of the way on the subject even after it lost said ruinous war. In fact, as the centennial of the Emancipation Proclamation approached, hate-filled mobs were screaming abuse at civil rights marchers, preparatory to police attacks with water cannon, nightsticks and trained dogs.
That was not a population who would have voluntarily integrated had they gained the upper hand by force of arms.
President Jefferson Davis wanted slavery ended. He just wasn't going to go out and say that all the slaves are free. He wanted to do what was right, educate them, and then integrate them into society.
Can't speak to Davis' personal desires in that direction, but the Confederation did go to the trouble of specifically protecting slavery in the Confederate constitution:
"No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed."
(That's section 9, point 4, for those interested.)
And of course the Confederate vice president, Alexander Stephens, had this to say on that subject:
Quote:
Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.
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Can't speak to Davis' personal desires in that direction, but the Confederation did go to the trouble of specifically protecting slavery in the Confederate constitution:
"No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed."
(That's section 9, point 4, for those interested.)
And of course the Confederate vice president, Alexander Stephens, had this to say on that subject:
After reading this, I am still disturbed that there are people who support the Confederate cause.
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