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After some digging and reading (deciphering) from the language that he was writing in 1797 that some people were talking of bucking under to France rather than to go to war with her. It seems that he was against that. I might be reading it wrong. Scroll the pages up.
In 1797 we were still at war with Great Britain and did not have the power to fight with France at the same time. Besides nine years later we bought half of the continent from them. A couple of years later we got into another shooting war with Britain.
A lot of would be heroes place personal pride above the cost of war to the people that actually fight.
That is the sort of thing said when one is attempting to rally people to a cause. It is of course rather impractical to have a philosophy which holds that every insult and snub must be answered with violence, diplomacy does a have a place in life, the trick is picking the right spots.
Of course we might consider that Hamilton chose to duel with Aaron Burr rather than endure the "disgrace" of his criticism, and it cost him his life.
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In 1797 we were still at war with Great Britain and did not have the power to fight with France at the same time. Besides nine years later we bought half of the continent from them. A couple of years later we got into another shooting war with Britain.
A lot of would be heroes place personal pride above the cost of war to the people that actually fight.
True today but actually, I believe Hamilton and Washington led the militia that went in. Luckily for Hamilton, they showed up after the rebellion had collapsed.
Yep. I agree. Because a nation that is aggressive really doesn't understand anything but strength. Do you think Stalin would have been content to return home and repair the Soviet Union after World War II with a massive Europe and a prostrate Europe?
In 1797 we were still at war with Great Britain and did not have the power to fight with France at the same time. Besides nine years later we bought half of the continent from them. A couple of years later we got into another shooting war with Britain.
A lot of would be heroes place personal pride above the cost of war to the people that actually fight.
Treaty of Paris was signed on September 3, 1783. It was ratified on January 4, of 1784. That was the final agreement. Hostilities on American soil had virtually ended after the surrender of Cornwallis on October, 1971. However, the last British troops did not leave until near the end of November, 1783.
That is the sort of thing said when one is attempting to rally people to a cause. It is of course rather impractical to have a philosophy which holds that every insult and snub must be answered with violence, diplomacy does a have a place in life, the trick is picking the right spots.
Of course we might consider that Hamilton chose to duel with Aaron Burr rather than endure the "disgrace" of his criticism, and it cost him his life.
Hamilton had been through more than one challenge to duel (several times initiated by him) and had always gotten through it. The usual procedure was a negotiation by the 'second' to avert a duel. Hamilton used this several times to get retractions/apologies from those who had slimed him.
In any case the quote would seem to be obviously true, at least in some situations.
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