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Old 03-09-2010, 09:54 AM
 
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Ice station zebra was about soviet airborne forces not spetznaz.
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:49 PM
 
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That rumor is completely false. I was stationed in Alaska with the Army for years and the Eskimo Scouts periodically claimed to have seen tracks and find documents with Soviet writing etc but when investigated nothing could ever be confirmed..they lost the documents, the documents were shipping labels for trade items, etc.

You can see Big and Little Diomede from each other (Big was Soviet and Littlee US) and you can walk across the ice to visit during the right time of the year but there is absolutely nothing on either one worth noting. There was a case of a crazy Californian that walked across to the Russian side during the cold war where he was detained, treated pretty good, then returned to the US within a week or so (I think his name was John Weymouth or something like that).

Basically my take on it was that the persistent Spetnaz rumors helped keep funding flowing to the Alaska Army National Guard and provided a moral boost for the troops. In all cases, the places these so called incursions were reported had nothing there...no base, no radar installation and in most cases...no town. The north west coast of Alaska is barren and desolate and the Spetnaz had no need to train there even, its barren and desolate in Siberia as well.

Nope, another enduring Cold War myth unsubstantiated by any facts at all.
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Old 03-10-2010, 08:37 PM
 
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but there is absolutely nothing on either one worth noting.
Which is why the argument the spetznaz operated on the island is so silly. In order to get worthless information they would have risked a major diplomatic incident.

Its not impossible, if unlikely, that Russian troops simply got lost and wandered onto the island, but I doubt even that occured very often if ever.
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Old 03-18-2010, 07:58 PM
 
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Wow.....so funny....

I can imagine the scene....Some Spetsnaz muldoons land on some miserable totally wind-swept shore on the Bearing Sea.

"Bleen! It is cold as sheet HERE TOO! "

"Pashlee"......(lets' SPLIT).....


Seriously....If I'd been there....watching from a distance... I'd of stayed on the INSIDE.....

"Russians on the beach?.....No sheet......F--- them....silly bast-ages...they can have it..." ......"your deal...."
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Old 03-18-2010, 10:08 PM
 
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It reminds me of the sixties movie "The Russians are comming, the Russians are coming," where a Russian sub commander wants to see the US and gets stuck on a sand bar. The local public concludes its a Russian invasion and panics.

Its pretty hilarious...
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Old 08-08-2011, 10:05 PM
 
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soviet basterds
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Old 08-09-2011, 03:13 AM
 
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There's a setup for a Sarah Palin joke in here somewhere...
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Old 05-29-2012, 10:25 PM
 
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Soviet special forces was practically in all parts of the world at that time.( about their tasks) And that in Alaska to do on this answer I not. But why? You know that the Russian intelligence was in all the offices of America? And the Russian intelligence occupied the leading positions in America, including in the sphere of Finance. So for example, show that reached the Russian intelligence is a simple example is The secret project America, this is Manhattan Project, and participated in it the Soviet physics (agents, and so American, who worked at the USSR) And also played a key role in this project. But spetsnaz is a bit of a different kind of problem. The CIA have learned about them mainly after the collapse of the USSR.
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Old 05-29-2012, 10:31 PM
 
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That rumor is completely false. I was stationed in Alaska with the Army for years and the Eskimo Scouts periodically claimed to have seen tracks and find documents with Soviet writing etc but when investigated nothing could ever be confirmed..they lost the documents, the documents were shipping labels for trade items, etc.

You can see Big and Little Diomede from each other (Big was Soviet and Littlee US) and you can walk across the ice to visit during the right time of the year but there is absolutely nothing on either one worth noting. There was a case of a crazy Californian that walked across to the Russian side during the cold war where he was detained, treated pretty good, then returned to the US within a week or so (I think his name was John Weymouth or something like that).

Basically my take on it was that the persistent Spetnaz rumors helped keep funding flowing to the Alaska Army National Guard and provided a moral boost for the troops. In all cases, the places these so called incursions were reported had nothing there...no base, no radar installation and in most cases...no town. The north west coast of Alaska is barren and desolate and the Spetnaz had no need to train there even, its barren and desolate in Siberia as well.

Nope, another enduring Cold War myth unsubstantiated by any facts at all.
I agree! Russian Alaska't do anything. This rumor helped фенансировать the army and so forth in the region. So often done. That policy gave the good and Finance
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Old 05-30-2012, 05:17 AM
 
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That rumor is completely false. I was stationed in Alaska with the Army for years and the Eskimo Scouts periodically claimed to have seen tracks and find documents with Soviet writing etc but when investigated nothing could ever be confirmed..they lost the documents, the documents were shipping labels for trade items, etc.

You can see Big and Little Diomede from each other (Big was Soviet and Littlee US) and you can walk across the ice to visit during the right time of the year but there is absolutely nothing on either one worth noting. There was a case of a crazy Californian that walked across to the Russian side during the cold war where he was detained, treated pretty good, then returned to the US within a week or so (I think his name was John Weymouth or something like that).

Basically my take on it was that the persistent Spetnaz rumors helped keep funding flowing to the Alaska Army National Guard and provided a moral boost for the troops. In all cases, the places these so called incursions were reported had nothing there...no base, no radar installation and in most cases...no town. The north west coast of Alaska is barren and desolate and the Spetnaz had no need to train there even, its barren and desolate in Siberia as well.

Nope, another enduring Cold War myth unsubstantiated by any facts at all.

That's what I was thinking. What on earth is there to spy on at Little Diomede? You land, climb up to the top of the hill and....then what?
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