Invasion of Georgia 2008

[FlashM]

Originally Posted by slick828

If the US were to shell any town in America...say Scottsdale (off the top of my head...no hate). Do you think any country in the world would invade and occupy Scottsdale? Other countries would condemn it and be confused...but no actions wouldn't be similar. It wouldn't be ok for the US to shell any town in the US, but no one would do or say anything. According to accepted international law, other countries (Russia) aren't supposed to cross borders and impose sovereignty unless genocide is involved...as far as I know (i could be misinformed) genocide has not occured. FlashM, can you please post facts and not one line comments that mean nothing. Yes...I view Georgia different than a South Ossetian, but that doesn't change anything about the fact that South Ossetia belongs in todays Georgian borders.

I'd say it's not correct comparison How can you compare the States with its very specific history on the one hand and Georgia on the other hand? Georgia became independent relatively lately after the USSR had fallen. If the USA fall apart one day (should I touch wood?) and say Texas will become an independent State do you believe Russia should interfere with American interstate issues supporting Texas? As for me I don't think so. So why does America interfere with that delicate question supporting Georgia?
Further, just keep in mind what the States did during that Serbia conflict. Do Serbia and Kosovo belong to the States? Sure no. And don't forget what the States still do in the Asian countries like Iraq. Does Iraq belong to the States? Nope again.
As I know the official Russian attitude towards this issue is that South Ossetia and Abkhazia don't belong to Georgia. Though they don't belong to Russia either. So they are independent states and allies to Russia. As it is stated by many Russian politicians the USA are interested to destabilize the Caucasian region situation and to hurt Russia by supporting Georgia.

As for genocide you've mentioned. As I know Georgia is very intolerant towards the people of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. I'm not sure whether it could be qualified as 100 percent genocide but lots of people indeed are discriminated against quite intensely. That's why South Ossetia and Abkhazia wanted to become (or maybe even had become) independent back in the day when USSR existed.

[Hillrunner]

Originally Posted by slick828

Just wondering what some of you think about the Russian invasion of Georgia during the 2008 Olympic Games. Was it justified for them to invade South Osettia claiming to protect its residents? Also should countries (other than Russia) recognize South Osettia as a sovereign state? What should happen, should it be absorbed in Russia, remain part of Georgia (by Georgian force) or become an independent, or other?

It was about the control and flow of oil.