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Old 11-06-2009, 06:34 PM
 
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Yes, let's see: iran-contra, the recession, people killing themselves in social security offices because of tightened benefit regulations, you did not see homelessness in the US for more than a generation until Regan, chickening out in Lebanon, huge govt spending (check the congressional record), the aids crisis, falling asleep in cabinet meetings.
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:49 PM
 
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The U.S. bankrupted the Soviet Union in an arms race. It imploded. Reagan was there to do two things:

1) Outspend the Soviets on armaments and kick off the triumphant introduction to the American public of the military industrial complex

2) Cement his perception in the annals of history as a great President who helped to defeat communism.
Reagan outspending the Soviet Union was nothing new and innovative. In fact, we always outspent the Soviet Union. By a lot. Their's was a system that was doomed to failure from the beginning. Reagan just happened to be their when they finally had a leader who recognized that Marxism as an economic system was a complete and utter failure.
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Arlington Virginia
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... We had good jobs, bought houses, got married, etc. Life was good during the Reagan years.
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I'd rather remember Gil Scott-Heron: ...The idea concerns the fact that this country wants nostalgia. They want to go back as far as they can – even if it's only as far as last week. Not to face now or tomorrow, but to face backwards ...
I am sorry for you, but not too much. A very sad and bitter person. In case you hadn't noticed, while living in the past and in the basement of your misery, we now have another new president who is offering hope and progress towards a better today. Oh well, put on another 1970's GSH record...
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:52 PM
 
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I don't think Reagan would have minded not getting credit:

"There is no limit to what a man can do or where he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit."
- Ronald Reagan
Except it isn't Reagan's quote. It was probably first said by Ralph Waldo Emerson and has since been used by a lot of people, including Harry Truman.

Harry S Truman Famous Quote about Accomplish, Credit, Gets, Matter, When | Quotes Daddy
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Old 11-06-2009, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Although I do not view Reagan as a great President, any one who can lead this nation for eight years and leave the nation in one piece its future intact can take his proud place in that long line now 44 individuals long stretching from General Washington to Mr Obama. This all I expect from the President and I think Ronny met them. Hundreds of millions of Americans have walked this land but only 44 have shown both their gifts as well as their failings in such a public way demanded by that Office.
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Old 11-06-2009, 08:38 PM
 
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Reagan was the last of the great leaders;which is why he had so many democrats for Reagan his last term.Now days so many are just politcal hacks with no bakbone to lead but just sway with the maddening mob.If Obama had a backbone he would have decided on a in march instead of changing again and waffling to the far left. He never has made any case as to waht he beieves and why he believes in the afgan war. Wiuthout that he does not lead but follows popular opinion. MY guess is like so many politcain he is trtying to come up with a half baked plan to not suffeerr defeat in his term which is a waste. The problem is that his general and the joint chiefs have told him that is a way to defeat which will haunt him if it occurs.he was wrong on the iraq surge when suggested;whenit was implemented and it worked ;so he is not trusted in any quarter now.
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Old 11-06-2009, 08:53 PM
 
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Oh. OK.
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Old 11-07-2009, 06:47 AM
 
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I love it that Nancy had such an influence and her astrologer was right up there in the processes that affected our nation. The national debt went from 700 billion to 3 trillion, social security and medicare taxes went up, we had the savings and loan crisis - how many billions of our money to bail them out due to inadequate regulation - the US moved from the largest creditor nation to the largest debtor nation and it goes on and on. He was a failure.
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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More News, Gorbachev: Moscow Could Have Started WWIII Over Berlin Wall.

The Kremlin could have started World War Three in 1989 had it used troops to crush the demonstrations that preceded the fall of the Berlin Wall, former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev said on Tuesday.


Gorbachev is hailed in the West for ignoring hardliners who advised him to guarantee the Soviet Union's future by crushing a growing wave of dissent in Eastern Bloc countries that led to the fall of the Berlin Wall on Nov. 9, 1989.

Gorbachev: Moscow Could Have Started WWIII Over Berlin Wall (http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/gorbachev_berlin_wall/2009/11/03/281083.html - broken link)
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