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Old 12-07-2009, 08:10 PM
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I assert that roots of ancient Egyptian culture, a science and religion are indoeuropean,
and the ancestral home of the most ancient inhabitants of Egypt in the north of Eurasia and
in Black Sea Coast in territory of modern Russia.

Natives of Russia, namely tribes еneоpоlits archaeological cultures were ancestors of ancient Egyptians:
tripolie, ancient and Maikops. I name all place from the river of Dnepr in Ukraine to mountains of the Ural mountains in Russia country - ARATA .

Old 12-07-2009, 08:13 PM
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:16 PM
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" Throughout 50 thousand years.
Separately the civilisation which has generated all centres of modern human life on a planet the Earth . The first migrants have managed to be kept in the peripheral world only 30 thousand years ago.
After that periodically new wave left in out of the first-born world, and sometimes the previous wave of migrants. ( poor translation ) ...
(Doubt??? To you I will tell words and the alphabet, surprising coincidence and I find. Language and old culture in Russia = the Egyptian .
Kult-u-Ra / a sun cult.
u - Ra! = approximately the sun, with the sun.
Ratе = Armies, Solar soldiers.
Ра - ssvet = a dawn
Ра-t-mir = a name, the soldier of the Sun, supervises army .......................... )

Russian ethnos - basically a current condition of development eneolitical tribes of the Black Sea Coast and first of all a watershed of Oka, Don and Volga. Russian (actually Russian, Byelorussians, Ukrainians, Tatars and ... people of the European part of Russia - pra people from whom other people have been assigned repeatedly). In other living conditions people much of all of them on the earth - a little Russian .
(I will remind. Russia = Rassenija / does not have borders.
Rassenija is a place, a place where the person lives on a star calendar (a present star Kalada), a place sun).

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Old 12-07-2009, 08:44 PM
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The preliterate period of history of Egypt is a little studied. The archeology data speaks to us about rather late cultural, in modern understanding, settling of a valley of Nile about III thousand BC).
Hence, there is a basis to speak about settling of Egypt in the third millenium - a wave of the alien population ..
Writing in Egypt has been a little developed (or was the privilege of a special caste) approximately till 3100 BC All data on religion of Egypt till this time can be only presumably restored in the subjects found archeologists.
Ancient Egyptians had myths. Myths told about relations between gods, but few of them have reached us in an original form …

Prayers and the hymns to gods reminding psalms of the Old Precept exist myths still. Are known as well Wisdom books, in which as in the bible book the Parable, all contains - from a practical advice to the general theological reasonings on the life nature... Besides, there is a set of magic spells which also can be considered as religious monuments ….
Old 12-07-2009, 08:50 PM
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. The Main gods of Egypt:

- Amon, the tsar of gods, the patron of Pharaohs, is identified with god-sun Amon-Ra;

- Anubis, god dead, the keeper of tombs and burial places;

- Aton, the sun - short time was considered as the Supreme and unique god;

- Hator, the goddess-sky - the goddess-cow, the goddess of love and dances, the princess of an underground kingdom and a beloved of stars;

- Gor, god of the Bottom Egypt, god-sky;

- Isida, the tsarina of gods, the great goddess-mother. The goddess of agriculture and fertility;

- Hnum, god of the Top Nile, the founder of gods, people and waters;

- Tot, god-moon - subsequently god of doctrines and wisdom, the founder of writing;

- Osiris, god of fertility and agriculture - subsequently the Supreme god of Egypt together with god Ra and god dead;

- Sebek, god-water - was sometimes identified with harm and death;

- Pta, god dead, god of creation and fertility;

- Set, god-dry wind, it was murderer Osirisa;

- Ra, god-sun, the Supreme god, the tsar of gods, the father of mankind and the patron of tsars.
Old 12-07-2009, 08:58 PM
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One of the basic problem questions of Egyptology is the question of an origin of an ancient Egyptian civilisation. Where the culture of Ancient Egypt has arisen, pre Egyptians whence have come?

Archaeological data says that till 3000 BC all territory of Ancient Egypt occupied neolitical tribes with very low development. From a hypothesis discussed here appears that in the end of IV - the III thousand beginning BC from territory of Southern Russia there was a massive migration indoeuropean tribes in area of a valley of the river Nile. Almost during the same time there is a settling by tribes of this wave of Sumer, Elam, Harappa.

Occurrence of the developed culture on coast of Euphrates also carry to the III thousand beginning BC In Romania the most ancient letters on which basis Sumer writing has developed have been found. Clay tablets with the Protosumer cuneiform writing, dated IV thousands have been found out BC
It is known that the culture of Kukuteni in Romania is as though branch of the Tripolsky culture which are settling down from the river Dnepr to Ural Mountains, within region which, in my opinion, coincides with the most ancient civilisation - the country Arata.

In the territory adjoining northern coast of Black sea, in those days were settled indoeuropean tribes of archaeological cultures tripolie and ancient . Together with the next and related cultures (kukuteni - in Romania and Bulgaria and ancient - from Dnepr to Ural Mountains) it made the extensive area united by a number of the general signs:
Old 12-07-2009, 09:08 PM
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- Nonferrous metallurgy occurrence;

- Use motiga agriculture and house animal industries;

- Presence of mechanical manufacture, including painted pottery (at ancient holes the ornament was squeezed out), mud houses, clay figurines and agricultural solar cults.

The period tripolie arheoculture shares on three pieces, excellent on an urban saturation. The average period of development tripolie cultures (3600 - 3150 BC) interests. During this period occurrence of the huge cities surrounded with defensive shaft and ditches with water is characteristic. In such settlements built two-storeyed houses, at excavation find out workshops on processing of a stone, the tool of copper manufacturing. Thus at that time did not exist yet neither ancient Egypt, nor Sumer.

Under A.N.Martynova's certificate, at tripolies by this period there were original religious representations. «They have found reflexion, first of all, in an ornament of vessels. In an ornament representations about the natural phenomena, change of day and night, seasons are expressed.
... ornaments represented a ploughed land and crops, animals and stalks . A variety of plots the amazing: here and an interlacing of slanting streams of a rain, and the shoots of crops protected by sacred dogs... Great Mother-Universe» was the Predominating religious-mythological symbol.
Old 12-07-2009, 09:19 PM
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At tripolies there was uniform for huge spaces a religious cult of Makash ( mama ? mother ? ) , figurines find on all area of distribution of cultures tripolie and ancient. We find similar figurines in the most ancient settlements Kostenki on the right coast of Don.
In 3150-2350 decline of surprising culture tripolie BC is observed. Cities become empty, there is a moving tripolies on the north and the east. tribes move on lower terraces,
Lakeside tribes disappear during this period absolutely. Instead of two-storeyed houses there are dugouts. The quantity of painted ceramics decreases. By 2200 BC tripolies the culture disappears completely.

But it has not disappeared completely, and in due course has regenerated in троецарствие: White (or the Valdajsko-Baltic aura), Dark blue (or Sarmatiju) and Red (or Skifiju). But the part of a cult of Mother Nature and a solar deity (Rа) has moved to the North Africa, in a river Nile valley.

Ecological crisis, according to Matyushin G. N, called by Makhachkala regress of the sea, has occurred in an interval of time coinciding with the period of decline tripoles of culture, namely: from second half IV prior to the beginning of II thousand BC Archeologists mark during this period falling of level of Caspian sea on 40.5 metres below ocean level. In extensive territory lake inhabitants disappear, in steppes there are tribes first the shepherd. Occurrence of nomads - an obvious consequence eco crisis:
Because of dryness of the earths there is a decrease in productivity of agricultural cultures; the lack of vegetative food starts to be compensated by increase in consumption of meat of animals. The animal industries from the house turn to the nomadic.
Old 12-07-2009, 09:33 PM
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But such way of housekeeping could not provide everything, by then the numerous population of the territories captured by a drought. Therefore migration in area more humidified (the north of Russia) or provided with river water of the deep large rivers (a valley of Euphrates, the Tiger, Nile, Indus) was rescue. As has occurred: a population part migrated in a wood zone of Russia and Scandinavia, and a part, having made the ships around the modern city of Voronezh ( Russia), has gone on search of the new earths in the south.

Thus they did not lose touch with the still the prospering native land. Sumer owing to that has been connected with Aratoj more dangerous overland roads, almost began to develop at once independently. And Egypt very long was in an orbit of interests of northern tsars. They used it as a cemetery...
... Obvious similarity of the Egyptian vessels to products tripolies is observed
. The weight of vessels is found in Egypt with characteristic for all indoeuropean a spiral ornament, a symbol of a solar deity. The ornament by a paint according to traditions tripolies potters is executed, and found out in Egypt ...
... Other characteristic attribute of culture of the ancient people is the burial ceremony. And in this case the burial places of the period found out in Egypt when still mumia has not entered into custom, remind burial places tropolie, old and Afonasiewoi cultures of the north
Eurasia. Often in the Egyptian burial places the buried in a pose "sleeping" (or an embryo), feet and hands are turned in. Absolute analogy of such way of a burial place burials make another
indoeuropean arheo culture, developed a bit later on a basis tripolies...

One more argument in favour of a hypothesis indoeuropean origins of an ancient Egyptian civilisation is "miracle of the world" of the Egyptian culture - pyramids.
Let's pay the attention to barrows of Russian steppes.
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:46 PM
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Embankment barrow are the of constructions of type of pyramids of Egypt. Large funeral constructions in territory of Russia have appeared more five thousand years ago, that is almost simultaneously with the Egyptian pyramids.
These constructions which were construction of a tree and a ground, earlier also reminded on appearance of a pyramid. The tree has decayed, the ground was showered, and from monumental constructions there were only embankments in diameter to 200 metres.
Barrows - not less difficult architectural constructions, than pyramids, but their architecture it is studied worse as their big part has collapsed still in the ancient time.
Important that the most ancient pyramid - the pyramid of Dzhosser, has been constructed only in 2650 BC, that is after a while after hypothetical resettlement indoeuropean to Egypt here is. The conclusion arises that tripoles only after some hundreds years have found the technical and architectural decision for execution of ritual of burial of tsars under pinnacled constructions.
constructions, whether it be barrows or pyramids, are, result of creativity in which genetic memory indoeuropean about the ancient states - of Zagros mountains / (on Matyushin was showed), or about the Rescue Grief (Jara Berezajte from Avesty) during an epoch of flooding (myths about a grief the Measure and about the Flood). In other I, apparently, have found out recently Jara Berezajte from Avesty - has appeared on Valdai in the Tver region , Russia .
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