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Old 03-10-2010, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I want to know if many of the Confederate generals,such as Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson, had racist ideas about African-Americans prior to and during the Civil War. For instance, I read in Elizabeth Brown Pryor's book, Reading the Man: A Portrait of Robert E. Lee Through his Private Letters
(2007) that Robert E. Lee owned and whipped his slaves, and had racist ideas towards free blacks after the Civil War (p431). I want to know if there any historical facts to his statements.
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Old 03-10-2010, 01:39 PM
 
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Racism was a feature of the time, in both the south and the north. But I do know that Robert E. Lee promoted the idea of using black slaves as soldiers, at least in the closing days of the civil war.
Probably the most liberal of the confederate generals in regards to emancipation was corps commander Patrick Cleburne. Regretably he fell at the Battle of Franklin.
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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Probably the most liberal of the confederate generals in regards to emancipation was corps commander Patrick Cleburne. Regretably he fell at the Battle of Franklin.
Division commander and one of the best of the war. As to why he wasn't promoted to corps command in the Army of Tennessee, which had a parade of poor corps commanders, well that's controversial.

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Old 03-10-2010, 03:18 PM
 
Location: NC
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After the war, General Longstreet became a Republican and supporter of both president Grant and various reconstruction policies.
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Old 03-10-2010, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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After the war General Longstreet, became a Republican and supporter of both president Grant and various reconstruction policies.
He became a Catholic too, another thing that didn't help his popularity in the South.
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Old 03-10-2010, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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It would be interesting to know what what the confederate generatls thought about Stand Wattie?
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:09 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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It would be interesting to know what what the confederate generatls thought about Stand Wattie?
Interesting question, I believe he was the very last Confederate general to surrender. The American Civil War in Indian Territory (and the western states in general) has always intrigued me. It almost seems like it was a totally different war then the one that was being fought back east.
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Old 03-10-2010, 05:18 PM
 
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The sense that blacks were inferior to whites was so common in 1860 that discussing what Lee or others thought about it is almost meaningless. My understanding of Lee's thoughts on slavery was that he did not think it was particularly important one way or the other - that he said he would free his if it prevented war in the country. But that he thought blacks were not capable of being intergrated easily in the country at the time given their lack of education (a point that is easy to agree on actually).

Johnson became a Republican to support unity across regional lines. Not because of his views on slavery. By the mid-1870's the Republican party had ceased to care about the former slaves.
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Old 03-10-2010, 05:27 PM
 
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Default Stand Wattie

Stand Wattie was probably full-blood Cheorkee, and the only Indian Civil War soldier who was raised to the rank of Brigadier General.
"Watie's two greatest victories were the capture of the federal steam boat J.R. Williams on June 15, 1864, and the seizure of $1.5 million worth of supplies in a federal wagon supply train a the Second battle of Cabin Creek on September 19, 1864."
Stand Watie Biography Page

This particular article assumes the reader is familiar with Oklahoma. Cabin Creek, Fort Gibson, Honey Creek and Cowskin Prairie are between The foothills of the Ozark Mountains in Delaware County and Tulsa whilst
Webber's Falls is near the Texas border and farther west. This was before Oklahoma attained Statehoodm and before the opening of the Cherokee Strip Land Run. It was truly the wild, wild west then. Gen. Wattie is buried not far from Honey Creek near Grove, Oklahoma.

Today in Miami. Oklahoma visitors will find the Nine Tribes. Inside Honor Park in Muskogee, visitors will find the Five Tribes Museum, but if you are looking for Cherokee, the Tribal headquarters are in Talequah.

As a footnote: Gen. Longstreet had deep Dutch roots and no heirs.

It does not surprise me that Longstreet was Cathoic as the church held sway over the Low Countries until the Reformation movement was established. Longstreet and I share common Dutch ancestors. whose name was first spelled Langstraet. The family did not adopt the English spellinb until circa 1760. It has been spelled Longstreet every since.




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Interesting question, I believe he was the very last Confederate general to surrender. The American Civil War in Indian Territory (and the western states in general) has always intrigued me. It almost seems like it was a totally different war then the one that was being fought back east.
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Old 03-10-2010, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Southeast Arizona
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From what I know, Lee was a supporter of Cleburne's proposal, and seemed relieved at the fact that slavery was abolished in 1865.

Jackson, he died too early but I do know he had slaves allowed in church with him.

Outside of black Confederate troops and scouts like Louis Napoleon Nelson, I think Nathan Bedford Forrest was a completely different story.

P.G.T. Beauregard grew up in New Orleans so that "liberal" view of race in that city at that time may have had an influence on him.
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