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Old 05-13-2010, 02:20 PM
 
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Is "history" restricted only to that which is no longer in doubt?

Looks to me like a discussion of the authenticity of the reported circumstances of the demise of J W Booth. Which sounds like history, to me.
Like the old joke, "Who's buried in Grants tomb?" Not exactly history.... More a joke,
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Old 05-13-2010, 02:27 PM
 
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Actually grant and his wife are both buried in grant's tomb So that is a trick question.

Its impossible to disprove conspiracy theories. Everything that is known could be the product of a giant conspiracy by those who gather the facts. There is no way to show this is not the case. Any proof the conspiracies are wrong could have been fabricated.

You have to decide how reasonable that is.
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Old 05-13-2010, 03:03 PM
 
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Actually grant and his wife are both buried in grant's tomb So that is a trick question.

Its impossible to disprove conspiracy theories. Everything that is known could be the product of a giant conspiracy by those who gather the facts. There is no way to show this is not the case. Any proof the conspiracies are wrong could have been fabricated.

You have to decide how reasonable that is.
Actually Grant and his wife are not buried, they are entombed in Grant's tomb.

Doctors have some advice, "When you hear hoof beats, thing horse not zebras"
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Old 05-13-2010, 03:18 PM
 
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What is the difference between being "entombed" and buried? To me they are the same, its where your remains lie.
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Old 05-13-2010, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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What is the difference between being "entombed" and buried? To me they are the same, its where your remains lie.
Generally, the meanings are quite distinct, although there can be some figurative overlap.

"Bury" definitely implies being placed in the ground, below the surface, and covered with earth, whether or not in a closed container. A "Tomb" is the container in which a body might be placed for burial, but does not imply burial. So the two would mean the same thing only if the body were encapsulated in a container that would meet the definition of a tomb, and then placed in the ground and covered with earth. Tomb is generally used to distinguish from a coffin, in that a tomb is not designed to be buried.

Grant's "tomb" resembles a casket, and rests on the floor inside a structure properly known as "General Grant National Memorial", above ground and wide open to public view, so has obviously never been "buried", and therefore, nobody is buried in Grant's Tomb, and as far as we know, nobody is buried under Grant's Tomb, either.

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Old 05-13-2010, 04:15 PM
 
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So where is grant's body then....

To me burial and entombment reflect the physical existence of a body....whether its below ground or above is not material.
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Old 05-13-2010, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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If I am not mistaken, didn't John Wilkes Booth and the police outside of the barn, talk quite abit? They had quite alot of conversation, where Booth admitted, etc who he was. After Booth refused to surrender, is when the fire started and Booth was shot.
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Old 05-14-2010, 07:45 AM
 
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The speculation of did so and so actually survive and live on is an interesting one that never seems to die. Perhaps the most plausible is the one about Robert LeRoy Parker (Butch Cassidy), but that is another topic. John Wilkes Booth and Jesse James, no, very unlikely.
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Old 05-14-2010, 08:31 AM
 
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Any Elvis sightings?
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Old 05-14-2010, 09:46 AM
 
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Any Elvis sightings?
The circumstances of Elvis' death are not of historical interest. They would be,I suppose, it there were significant reason to speculate that he knew who shot JFK and was placed into witness protection, but Elvis himself was not a personage of interest to historians.

That puts Elvis and John Wilkes Booth in different categories of historical interest, irrespective of any observer's inclination to paint all conspiracy theories with exactly the same brush.
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