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Old 02-23-2014, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Canada wins the gold, three zip, over Sweden. Price gets his second shut out, in five games played he only allowed three goals, a 95 percent save rate.

Canada, with a population 10 times SMALLER that that of the USA, still managed to win BOTH Women's and Mens' gold medals. For the women that is their fourth straight Olympic gold medal. Team USA didn't even make the medal round, and were blown out five zip by the Finns. They just stopped playing in their final game.

AS one of the CBC TV commentators said, the Canadian fans sang the national anthem so loudly that they drowned out the arena's sound system when the Canadian flag was raised. The true north, strong and free.

Jim B

Toronto.
The Americans on this forum have been respectful and congratulatory to Canada and its hockey teams. The same is not true for you and for many other Canadian posters.

Keep up the ugly gloating and we'll start hating you as much as you hate us.

US Citizen
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Old 02-24-2014, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Please tell me exactly which part of my post was not true ? The scores speak for them selves, the outcome speaks for it's self, and the fans did sing our national anthem loudly. And Canada's population is 34 million people, while that of the USA is more than 300 million people.

Facts, not gloating, buddy.

Jim B.

Toronto.
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Old 02-24-2014, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Please tell me exactly which part of my post was not true ? The scores speak for them selves, the outcome speaks for it's self, and the fans did sing our national anthem loudly. And Canada's population is 34 million people, while that of the USA is more than 300 million people.

Facts, not gloating, buddy.

Jim B.

Toronto.
I've played hockey with tons of Canadians over the years. To the person, they've been gracious, kind, and fantastic people. I've always been proud to call them a friend. Not sure why you want to try and have a belittling tone towards the US players. They Canadians played fantastic hockey beating out all of the other teams and thus deserved the win. I think the moral of the story is to not be a sore winner and we won't be a sore loser. Congrats to your countrymen's excellent hockey game(s).
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Old 02-24-2014, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Thanks.

I see that you live in SC... where do you play hockey ?

Jim B.

Toronto.
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Old 02-24-2014, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Thanks.

I see that you live in SC... where do you play hockey ?

Jim B.

Toronto.
Well, now I play beer league at the Carolina Ice Palace in Charleston. Back (a million years ago), when I played competitively, I went to school up North. Played at Choate, then Berkshire, and finally St. Lawrence for college.
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Old 02-24-2014, 11:01 AM
 
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Please tell me exactly which part of my post was not true ? The scores speak for them selves, the outcome speaks for it's self, and the fans did sing our national anthem loudly. And Canada's population is 34 million people, while that of the USA is more than 300 million people.

Facts, not gloating, buddy.

Jim B.

Toronto.
What does it matter that the US has a population far larger than Canada's? New Zealand has roughly 4.5 million people (even smaller than Canada), yet their rugby team would the the US's 99 times out of 100. Population disparity does not matter. Canada played better than the US did at the Olympics in hockey, no one is debating that.
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Old 02-24-2014, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Interesting....... Did you go on a sports scholarship ? I ask because in Canada , there are NO sports scholarships at our Universities. None at all. You CAN get a scholarship if you are outstanding academic student. Our Universities are not a stepping stone to the NBA, NFL or NHL.

Most of our outstanding 16 year olds have been scouted by the NHL system, and they play in one of three leagues that are considered to be farm systems, for the NHL. The Ontario Hockey League, junior A teams, are all owned by NHL teams, So are the Western League, and the Quebec major junior A league. The usual progression is a junior league to the American league, and then to the NHL. One of the fabled Toronto Maple Leafs of years past, Johnny Bower, played in the AHL for 14 years, before he made it to the Big Show. And he also served in the Canadian Army, for four years, as a artillery gunner, in the Second World War, them went into the NHL. My hero.

Junior A players are not paid a wage, but all of their living costs, equipment and educational costs are covered by their NHL owners. One example that you will recognize by name, was Wayne Gretzky, who at age 13 was all ready playing with 18 year olds, in the OHL, with amazing stats. By age 18 he was playing in the now defunct World Hockey League, and after in the NHL. Bobby Orr had a similar career path with Boston Bruins. He was playing at age 14 in the OHL, for the Oshawa Generals with 18 and 20 year olds.

Neither Gretzky nor Orr went to a College, and Wayne didn't even finish high school. That has been corrected now, with rules in place about kids having to maintain a 75 percent average in school or their team can't play them. The OHL is a huge travel league, with a eastern Ontario team such as Cornwall, having a 14 hour bus ride to play in Sault St Marie, or Ottawa going to Windsor has a 10 hour ride, one way. The Western League is just as bad with teams in Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, and British Columbia. No planes for those kids ! The Quebec League covers Quebec, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island, and Newfoundland and Labrador.

The OHL also has a fair number of European teen age players, who are NHL prospects. They live with a family in the city or town where the team is located, go to school there, and play hockey. The OHL tries to match foreign players with Canadian families that speak their own language, to ease the transition to living in Canada. Makes sense, yes ?

Jim B

Toronto.
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Old 02-24-2014, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Interesting....... Did you go on a sports scholarship ? I ask because in Canada , there are NO sports scholarships at our Universities. None at all. You CAN get a scholarship if you are outstanding academic student. Our Universities are not a stepping stone to the NBA, NFL or NHL.

Most of our outstanding 16 year olds have been scouted by the NHL system, and they play in one of three leagues that are considered to be farm systems, for the NHL. The Ontario Hockey League, junior A teams, are all owned by NHL teams, So are the Western League, and the Quebec major junior A league. The usual progression is a junior league to the American league, and then to the NHL. One of the fabled Toronto Maple Leafs of years past, Johnny Bower, played in the AHL for 14 years, before he made it to the Big Show. And he also served in the Canadian Army, for four years, as a artillery gunner, in the Second World War, them went into the NHL. My hero.

Junior A players are not paid a wage, but all of their living costs, equipment and educational costs are covered by their NHL owners. One example that you will recognize by name, was Wayne Gretzky, who at age 13 was all ready playing with 18 year olds, in the OHL, with amazing stats. By age 18 he was playing in the now defunct World Hockey League, and after in the NHL. Bobby Orr had a similar career path with Boston Bruins. He was playing at age 14 in the OHL, for the Oshawa Generals with 18 and 20 year olds.

Neither Gretzky nor Orr went to a College, and Wayne didn't even finish high school. That has been corrected now, with rules in place about kids having to maintain a 75 percent average in school or their team can't play them. The OHL is a huge travel league, with a eastern Ontario team such as Cornwall, having a 14 hour bus ride to play in Sault St Marie, or Ottawa going to Windsor has a 10 hour ride, one way. The Western League is just as bad with teams in Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, and British Columbia. No planes for those kids ! The Quebec League covers Quebec, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island, and Newfoundland and Labrador.

The OHL also has a fair number of European teen age players, who are NHL prospects. They live with a family in the city or town where the team is located, go to school there, and play hockey. The OHL tries to match foreign players with Canadian families that speak their own language, to ease the transition to living in Canada. Makes sense, yes ?

Jim B

Toronto.
Well, for starters, I am a women and at the time I played, we were still building women's hockey in the competitive arena. For boarding school, I did not receive any scholarships although we did eventually recruit some girls that did receive scholarships (they weren't even offered when I played). For college, I was recruited heavily and did receive a scholarship but not full ride. At the time, there were no offerings of full rides for female hockey players. This is something that has changed and now they do offer full rides to female players. Most of the men's team were scouted by NHL and a lot of them were lower draft picks. They played college hockey to help increase their chances. Most got scholarships.

Perhaps that's why we had so many Canadians on my team - that and we were only minutes from the Canadian border. They did get scholarship money to play college hockey. Seems a win win. College education for free and the ability to increase their chances to play in the NHL.
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