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Old 05-04-2019, 07:55 PM
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Location: Ontario
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Meh. That is only something an American would say. Most of the player's are Canadian so you look quite foolish boasting about a Club win. The Toronto Raptors have a very good chance of winning the NBA this year. Am I going to say that a Canadian Team won the Larry O'Brien Championship or whatever the hell they call it if the Raps win? Of course not. Maybe Toronto but nothing else.


Besides I'll take my multiple Gold Medals at the Olympics and World Cup of Hockey over an NHL Club winning the Cup anyway.


My Country>Club!
True.

But the Leafs haven’t won the cup since 1967....that’s a looooong time
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Old 05-20-2019, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Metropolis IL
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There's a common entry draft, where the location of teams or players has no bearing.

With free agency, players go to cities where they want to live. Four of the seven Canadian franchises are located in less than desirable locales.

Two of the seven Canadian franchises, have a history of poor ownership and management. One has loaded up with high draft picks for years, and still can't make the play-offs.

The two original 6 franchises don't have the competitive advantage they continually had in the pre-expansion era, where they held territorial rights on all players native to certain provinces. In effect, they could lock up the rights to future stars in their early teens. Given there were few US born players at that time, the four US based teams were relegated to accepting cast offs, and hoping they developed into NHL caliber players.

The end of the Cold War, and availability of Russian talent, has put less emphasis on North American born players
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Old 05-24-2019, 08:35 PM
 
Location: The North Star State
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Those who are claiming that the reason no Canadian teams has won the Cup in 26 years is because American clubs have more money to pay for talent are...

...wrong.

This isn't theory. Team payrolls aren't secret. Those finances are publicly available. Those of you peddling this claim should check and see if there's any basis to it. There isn't - which you'd know, if you'd checked. Since you haven't checked, there's no excuse for you making such a claim.

To point - this most recent season began with Toronto having the 9th-highest payroll in the league, Montreal the 3rd-highest, and Edmonton the highest of all. Given that Canadian teams represent 23% of all current NHL franchises, having 3 of the top 10 payrolls - and 2 of the top 3 overall - proves that idea to be completely wrong.
https://cashflowsports.com/2018/10/0...ls-in-the-nhl/
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Old 05-25-2019, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Given how popular hockey is in Canada it seems strange that no Canadian team has won the Stanley Cup since 1993. Is the some reason, like currency difference that explains this?
Canadian teams have failed to win a Game 7 multiple times since '93. The league has expanded since '93. Most teams, American or Canadian, have not won The Cup since '93. Odds are a factor.
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Old 07-11-2019, 11:02 AM
 
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Those were many years ago.
Ha, so if a championship wasn't won in the past 5 years it doesn't count? LOL. As pointed out, the Canadiens have won the most Cups of any NHL franchise... by a WIDE margin.

And Canadian-based clubs have won 43 Cups compared to American-based teams' 51, which is 45%... and a far greater quantity of American teams...

Canadiens - 24
Maple Leafs - 13
Oilers - 5
Flames - 1

Total: 43

American-based teams total: 51


Plus, the Montreal Canadiens are the most successful hockey franchise in North American Professional Sports history. They are compared to the Boston Celtics (NBA) and New York Yankees (MLB) as the most successful pro sports franchise...
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Old 07-15-2019, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Ha, so if a championship wasn't won in the past 5 years it doesn't count? LOL. As pointed out, the Canadiens have won the most Cups of any NHL franchise... by a WIDE margin.

And Canadian-based clubs have won 43 Cups compared to American-based teams' 51, which is 45%... and a far greater quantity of American teams...

Canadiens - 24
Maple Leafs - 13
Oilers - 5
Flames - 1

Total: 43

American-based teams total: 51


Plus, the Montreal Canadiens are the most successful hockey franchise in North American Professional Sports history. They are compared to the Boston Celtics (NBA) and New York Yankees (MLB) as the most successful pro sports franchise...
I didn't say they were irrelevent. Montreal has a great history. They suck now, though. It could be many years before they get to 25.
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Old 07-20-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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Of course. Not every team can contend every year. Habs don't have any superstar caliber players. They thought they might have had some with Pacioretty, Galchekyuk, Price, etc. but those guys didn't live up to it.
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Old 07-25-2019, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Of course. Not every team can contend every year. Habs don't have any superstar caliber players. They thought they might have had some with Pacioretty, Galchekyuk, Price, etc. but those guys didn't live up to it.
Price was good, but he couldn't do it alone.
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Old 07-28-2019, 01:09 AM
 
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Nope he could not, you're right. Management is at fault for not getting the right talent to play with him. They thought older guys would pick up the slack. Didn't happen.
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Old 07-30-2019, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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Of course. Not every team can contend every year. Habs don't have any superstar caliber players. They thought they might have had some with Pacioretty, Galchekyuk, Price, etc. but those guys didn't live up to it.
Habs have had plenty of chances. They had Saku Koivu for a decade, and pretty much refused to surround him with talent. He could have easily been a superstar. Some of the greatest vision ever in hockey. See what he could do when paired with good linemates while playing for Finland?

If it's not one guy being wasted away, it's another. Nothing new here. Poor Carey.
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