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Old 11-19-2014, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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Sure. I didn't criticize your question either, even though your question wasn't really an interactive question - it was more along the lines of "If it doesn't affect you, why don't you just shut up?"

That's not really the sort of question that expands the conversation. It's a criticism of the discussion itself. But you know that.

This is a section of the forum for discussing decorating, not debating, so I'll stop now - unless you really want to discuss decorating.
I want to discuss people who complain about people who don't decorate the same way you do, as Ohiogirl is doing. If she (and the OP) can complain about them, then we can complain about her. Fair's fair, and all.

This whooole conversation is about complaining about what other people do. It's not really a discussion about decorating or remodeling (in a discussable form) at all.

The OP doesn't realize that a lot of smaller cottages and rancher houses new and old have front doors that open up to the living room. It's not just an "open concept" thing. And they seem to be worried about people they know coming up looking in the door and seeing a mess, which they are obviously embarassed about, and instead of simply cleaning up the mess or explaining the mess to visitors, they decided to complain about open concept living causing their problem. That's a crock of manure.

And then the typical CD bandwagon bitching about open concept comes in to seal the deal.

You want to talk about expanding the conversation? For once, lets expand it beyond complaining about HGTV and open concept living, especially when the things that they are complaining about are way older than HGTV and really have little to do with open concept.

CD (at least the house section) is at it's best when questions are asked and answered on what finishes to use, how to maintain/repair things, where to find things, and helping people get though projects in their homes. It's at it's worst when threads like this are started.
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Old 11-19-2014, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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I want to discuss people who complain about people who don't decorate the same way you do, as Ohiogirl is doing. If she (and the OP) can complain about them, then we can complain about her. Fair's fair, and all.

This whooole conversation is about complaining about what other people do. It's not really a discussion about decorating or remodeling (in a discussable form) at all.

The OP doesn't realize that a lot of smaller cottages and rancher houses new and old have front doors that open up to the living room. It's not just an "open concept" thing. And they seem to be worried about people they know coming up looking in the door and seeing a mess, which they are obviously embarassed about, and instead of simply cleaning up the mess or explaining the mess to visitors, they decided to complain about open concept living causing their problem. That's a crock of manure.

And then the typical CD bandwagon bitching about open concept comes in to seal the deal.

You want to talk about expanding the conversation? For once, lets expand it beyond complaining about HGTV and open concept living, especially when the things that they are complaining about are way older than HGTV and really have little to do with open concept.

CD (at least the house section) is at it's best when questions are asked and answered on what finishes to use, how to maintain/repair things, where to find things, and helping people get though projects in their homes. It's at it's worst when threads like this are started.
OK.

Like others on this thread, I personally don't care for doors that open directly into living rooms, or floorplans that allow a full view of the sink area of a kitchen from the front door or main living area. I also cringe when it seems like EVERY SINGLE EPISODE regarding home remodeling on HGTV consists largely of tearing down walls and making big "common areas" in every house, regardless of style or era or functionality.

I don't think it's a moral issue. And I don't think that people who prefer open plans are stupid or tasteless for preferring them. HOWEVER -I also think that some people can become convinced that it's "the thing to do" and buy a house with that floorplan, or even worse, CREATE that floorplan themselves, when they may not realize that, like every floor plan, there are pros AND cons about it.

I say this because my former home was open concept. It was beautiful. It was spacious and open and had lots of natural light. People would walk in and say immediately, "Oh this is beautiful. I love your home." (Or comments along those lines.)

Guess what - after living there a few months, we hated it. HATED THAT OPEN FLOOR PLAN, I tell you. If I had thought to read up on the pros and cons of such floor plans, I probably would not have bought that particular house. I could have saved myself several years of frustration.

So that's why I think these sorts of threads are appropriate, even if some of the comments veer off into left field or may seem petty. People can actually be compelled to think of other alternatives, other perspectives, other issues - and they may be able to save themselves some frustration. It could totally work the other way too - some people might have never considered an open floor plan but when they read about the aspects that people love about theirs, they may say, "Hmmmmm, I think I might like that."

It's all good.
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Old 11-20-2014, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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I have to agree totally with the comment above. I think KA is trying to get across all the different aspects of "open concept" living, so it is a discussion on it. HGTV, like she stated, seems to "try" to convince people they want this, or have to have this. We all raised kids back in the day and didn't keep an eye on them every 3 seconds of the day, I have 3 boys, and it worked, as did my Mother with me and my sister.

All of us giving our opinions of OC is giving others (hopefully) just something to think about.
KA didn't like it for her reasons, others like it for thiers. Everyone's reasons are right no ones are wrong. We are all different people giving different living experiences. We all live differently.

KA lives in a big beautifull house (that in my next life time I want too ) but for now, I live in a 4 room apartment in a very urban area, it works for me and satisfies our needs.

We have walls, seperate rooms, I am also an empty nester, so our "walled" (is that even a word?) apartment works for us. We have family with the infamous "open concept", it seems to work for them. Do we like it? personally, no, I don't. But, whether we do or not, I guess it really doesn't matter, it just doesn't work for us.

I like to be in the kitchen and "kitch" ( another made up word) and my partner likes to be in the living room reading, so kitchen noises, and whether we realize it or not, are annoying. We like going to the living room oasis that is serene and relaxing, not the kitchen, with all the action going on, and I also have a portable washer, so need I say more?....then when any of my sons come over, ugh, forget that oasis.......LOL
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Madison, AL
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Well I certainly didn't mean to cause strife on the board. I just wanted to see if there was ANYONE else who shared my opinion, that's all. Because everything you see & hear is open, open, open. I wondered if I was the lone dissenter. I'm glad to know I'm not. And I'm glad there are options for everyone out there.

And FYI....I don't have a messy house. That's not what's driving my personal dislike. It's just MY preference & last time I checked, it's ok for people to have preferences
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Well I certainly didn't mean to cause strife on the board. I just wanted to see if there was ANYONE else who shared my opinion, that's all. Because everything you see & hear is open, open, open. I wondered if I was the lone dissenter. I'm glad to know I'm not. And I'm glad there are options for everyone out there.

And FYI....I don't have a messy house. That's not what's driving my personal dislike. It's just MY preference & last time I checked, it's ok for people to have preferences
And right you would be!
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