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Old 10-25-2010, 06:40 PM
 
Location: sowf jawja
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DRAWINGS DID NOT SHOW TRIM DETAILS. NOR DID THEY SHOW THINGS LIKE HOW TO ROUTE WIRING OR PLUMBING RUNS, HVAC DUCTING LOCATIONS, WHERE TO PUT NAILS, OR EVEN HOW TO FRAME INSIDE WALLS. IN MY EXPERIENCE THESE THINGS ARE LEFT UP TO THE CONTRACTOR'S EXPERTISE, OR HE IS EXPECTED TO ASK IF UNSURE.
When using any material nonstandard to today's general building practices, like a wide trim, it should always be noted in detail by the architect.

It is not a standard practice to note wiring locations; many jurisdictions I work in however do require the architect to draw plumbing routes and HVAC register locations. When we're provided a set of professional drawings, we expect to see exactly what's in the plan. So its not assumed that a contractor should be asking questions about specific items; its either in the plan or its not.

I know your reputation here as someone who puts great effort into what you do; I'm not questioning that. I'm just trying to clarify what the contractors viewpoint may be.




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BASCIALLY THE DRAWINGS SHOWED WHERE WALLS DOORS, ETC WERE LOCATED. IN A FEW INSTANCES I MARKED SPECIFIC LOCATIONS WHERE I WANTED CERTAIN OUTLETS, BUT OTHERWISE, THE ACRHITECT LEFT IT FOR THE EC TO PUT THEM IN PER CODE. THAT WAS A MISTAKE. THE BRILLIANT EC PLACE AN OUTLET UNDERNEATH AND OUTDOOR SHOWER. SINCE THE PLUMBING WAS ALREADY IN, PERHAPS HE SHOULD HAVE FIGURED OUT THAT YOU CANNOT HAVE AN OUTLET BOX IN A SHOWER.
I can't make an argument for the contractor on the outlet @ the shower, but as for general device locations, if the architect simply wanted a "per code" job it should've been noted. Otherwise devices are installed exactly as drawn.


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CONTRACTOR WAS TOLD THAT THE ADDITION WOULD BE BUILT TO MATCH EXISTING USING SALVAGED MATERIALS . . . . .
. IF THE PLANS DO NOT SHOW THEN PERHAPS YOU SHOULD ASK, NOT JUST INSTALL THEM WILLY NILLY ALL OVER THE PLACE. . . . . .
The long and short of it is, trade contractors that deal mostly in residential work do so for a reason. Its monkey work, so expect monkeys. And again, if its not in the plans we don't expect it to be there, leaving no reason to ask questions.

If you're looking for a good contractor for a remodel job, steer clear of those who only do resi new construction. Find a good resi/commercial service electrician.
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Old 10-25-2010, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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If you're looking for a good contractor for a remodel job, steer clear of those who only do resi new construction. Find a good resi/commercial service electrician.

I just finshed it myself after he failed to show up after doing a portion of the work. The contractor did some of the work as well. He mostly did a better job than the EC.
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