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Old 09-07-2011, 04:55 PM
 
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I've been a contractor for years and years. 80% to 90% are unethical. By unethical, I mean they are operating illegally and knowing right from wrong, they chose to not do right.

This is true whether you chose to use BBB, Angie's List, Service Magic or whoever.

In my opinion, an ethical contractor will operate legally, whether it is city/county/state or federal laws. The contractor will follow manufacturer recommendations. The contractor should also have a lot of experience in doing the type of work you are asking them to do.

Just a warning.
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Old 09-07-2011, 05:14 PM
 
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Yea, I have worked on many homes and I'm just amazed at how they throw these homes together.

On the bright side, at least it's not as bad, as say, Thailand.
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Old 09-07-2011, 05:16 PM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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By unethical, I mean they are operating illegally and knowing right from wrong, they chose to not do right.
Pound sand.
Licensure and competence (let alone ethics) are incidental... not causal.
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Old 09-07-2011, 07:37 PM
 
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I've been a contractor for years and years. 80% to 90% are unethical. By unethical, I mean they are operating illegally and knowing right from wrong, they chose to not do right.

This is true whether you chose to use BBB, Angie's List, Service Magic or whoever.

In my opinion, an ethical contractor will operate legally, whether it is city/county/state or federal laws. The contractor will follow manufacturer recommendations. The contractor should also have a lot of experience in doing the type of work you are asking them to do.

Just a warning.
I am very ethical....

It fact I am total "rules" gal.

So if we go by the odds, you must be unethical yourself.

Sure enough....I looked at your posts and you broke CD rules by advertising in another thread.

Being a "rules" gal, I report it to the mods.
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Old 09-07-2011, 09:05 PM
 
Location: sowf jawja
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did you pull these numbers out of the same ass you speak from?
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Old 09-07-2011, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Houston, Texas
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Any idea how many consumers/homeowners/customers are unethical?

As a contractor, do you know about the black list we keep of homeowners who screw contractors? It's a national list so we all use it.

Honesty is in short supply these days no matter which direction one looks. Don't just point at contractors. The most dishonest individuals on earth are politicians, cops and banks. And most of you like and trust them all. I do not.
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:43 AM
 
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I think that maybe ALL contractors are only 80-90% unethical. 9 out of 10 jobs are done "unethically" and 1 is done "ethically."
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:45 AM
 
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I think that maybe ALL contractors are only 80-90% unethical. 9 out of 10 jobs are done "unethically" and 1 is done "ethically."
Anything to back that up??
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Old 09-08-2011, 06:21 AM
 
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I feel ethics is only one out of several things a homeowner should look at when hiring a contractor. However, it is one that is often overlooked. If the contractor is deceitful about these things ... then a homeowner can not trust anything they say.

If the homeowner knowingly hires one of these contractors, they shouldn't complain. Ethical contractors cost more. Experienced contractors cost more. Contractors who use acceptable (or the best) materials cost more.

If a homeowner is getting references from an organization (BBB, Angie's, etc) and the contractor doesn't give an estimate or does a bad job ... it also says a lot about these organizations (that they have a lot of unethical contractors on board).
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Old 09-08-2011, 06:28 AM
 
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I feel ethics is only one out of several things a homeowner should look at when hiring a contractor. However, it is one that is often overlooked. If the contractor is deceitful about these things ... then a homeowner can not trust anything they say.

If the homeowner knowingly hires one of these contractors, they shouldn't complain. Ethical contractors cost more. Experienced contractors cost more. Contractors who use acceptable (or the best) materials cost more.

If a homeowner is getting references from an organization (BBB, Angie's, etc) and the contractor doesn't give an estimate or does a bad job ... it also says a lot about these organizations (that they have a lot of unethical contractors on board).
As a contractor I can tell you rarely to people ask for references.

I can only think of once in 12 years.

Not sure about ethical contractor costing more.

The State of Michigan took the license of a guy a few years back.

He was the MOST expensive.
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