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Just wanted to update on the toilet. I started this thread a couple of years ago and I thought I had fixed the problem but it turned out it was only temporary. I had installed a spacer but that turned out to be only a temporary fix. Finally called another plumber who told me the flange wasn't level (or installed correctly and affecting the wax ring). Anyway, he installed an new flange, hopefully correctly, and we now have a toilet that isn't leaking.
Finally called another plumber who told me the flange wasn't level (or installed correctly
and affecting the wax ring). Anyway, he installed an new flange...
I'll bet that wasn't cheap... but I'll also bet it solves the problem for good.
Bakeneko is right on the money; two rings, one flanged, one not. Set the toilet straight down on the rings, let it settle, tighten nuts, wait a few days, carefully re-tighten.
Sounds like what most have stated that it isn't seated right.
I would get nervous by using 2 wax rings in that a big chunk of wax could ooze out and head into your plumbing to block up somewhere.
Could it be condensation? With the right conditions it could look like your toilet is leaking bad.
I can see how someone might think that,but,the wax rings are bees wax, they don't ooze, and if you look at the bottom of a toilet, you will see that when engaged in the drain pipe receiver, there is very little space for oozing even if there were any oozing going on. We used to put the rings in the oven for a short while to soften them up and then when that wax set up, you had a great seal!
Through the years I have seen a lot of similar problems, all caused when the flange has not been replaced or at least lifted to match the new floor heigh (after raising the floor with the concrete board plus the added thickness of the new floor). While there are temporary solutions, the permeant one is to install a new flange on the floor. But this work sometimes takes extra efforts and time to accomplish.
For example, at my home I have the black ABS pipes. I had to cut the old pipe below the flange from the floor below, then glued the correct spacer, and then glued the flange on the pipe. Now it sits on the floor, protruding perhaps 1/4" above it. It's being held against the floor with rust-proof masonry screws. It took me time to do this work, but I don't expect any leaks from the new toilet any time soon.
Yet another update, started having problems with the toilet again. Called yet another plumber. So, this toilet has been set 4 times by a plumber and once by me. The latest plumber said I needed a double wax ring. Said the floor was fine just thick.
Yet another update, started having problems with the toilet again. Called yet another plumber. So, this toilet has been set 4 times by a plumber and once by me. The latest plumber said I needed a double wax ring. Said the floor was fine just thick.
Thanks again.
Wanted to bump this thread again. Once again, I am having the same problem with the toilet.
When flushed water leaks out from the base of the toilet.
Thoughts?
I am thinking it has to be the flange. Even though it was replaced I bet the guy did it wrong. The toilet isn't moving. There is no way the wax ring keeps failing.
Finally called another plumber who... installed a new flange
A new flange properly installed **should** have solved the problem.
Earlier I commented that it probably wasn't cheap because it usually requires
changing pipe up to the flange and often some floor work immediately below the toilet.
Did you get all that done for the $95?
Here's a LINK to some toilet rough in pics.
Note the the correct ones have the flange resting OVER the finished floor
with the toilet (and the 200lb man on it) well supported by that floor.
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