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Old 11-14-2012, 01:12 PM
 
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They add some humidity, but very little. Given how dry the air is in winter, they really only bring it up to normal levels. If your equipment is that fragile, you would need a dehumidifier during the summer to protect it. The pool heater creates a huge amount of humidity when it runs (it is NG), but is is 180,000 BTU. NG seems to produce more water than kerosene does. The pool heater leaves water dripping off the cieling.

Our garage has a side partition kind of an addition lean to thingy. When I run the torpedo heater, I place it in the partition and blow the heat in through the open door. This slightly reduces the odor and humidity.

Given the cost of installing a full furnace, I think I woucl probably replace all of my tools for the price differential. I do not have a machine shop in my garage. If I need those types of toools, I just join a club for a month and use theirs. Theey worry about all the maintainence and for $132 a month I can use about $1 million worth of tools and space. It seems follish for me to try to build my own machine shop to use once in a blue moon. I do not have that much room in my garage anyway.
Read here: http://www.clemson.edu/psapublishing/PAGES/FYD/HL256.pdf

When a heat source is putting out both heat and moisture, and it comes into contact with a cool/cold surface... well, freshman thermodynamics will explain it.
Long ago when I lived in MA, kerosene heaters were entirely illegal. Personally, don't care about legality... view it more of an IQ test.
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Aarticles and freshman thermodynamics are all well and good for people who want to spend their time reading articles and exlporing theory. My preference is usually reality over articles. Too often I find articles fail to investigate reality. The article can say whatever it wants to, that will not change the fact that we do not get moisture on surfaces when using kerosene. We also heated much of our house with kerosene heaters one winter when our boiler repreatedly malfunctioned. Again no moisture on surfaces, in fact we were running large humidifiers on every floor as well.


We do get moisture on surfaces in the garage when the NG pool heater is running in the winter, but we do not go int he garage when it is running. It is not vented, so the exhaust stays inside, if we get it properly vented, the water will get blown out with the exhust.

Articles, theories and calculations are really neat, but they do not make dry things moist. No matter how hard you calculate, argue, or therorize, they will still be dry.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:14 AM
 
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Aarticles and freshman thermodynamics are all well and good for people who want to spend their time reading articles and exlporing theory. My preference is usually reality over articles. Too often I find articles fail to investigate reality. The article can say whatever it wants to, that will not change the fact that we do not get moisture on surfaces when using kerosene. We also heated much of our house with kerosene heaters one winter when our boiler repreatedly malfunctioned. Again no moisture on surfaces, in fact we were running large humidifiers on every floor as well.


We do get moisture on surfaces in the garage when the NG pool heater is running in the winter, but we do not go int he garage when it is running. It is not vented, so the exhaust stays inside, if we get it properly vented, the water will get blown out with the exhust.

Articles, theories and calculations are really neat, but they do not make dry things moist. No matter how hard you calculate, argue, or therorize, they will still be dry.
You are correct. As, the world is flat, the sun orbits the earth, moon is made of green cheese, and alchemy is the basis for all science.

When was the last time you used a contact hygrometer (or something like an MIS 1 to take measurements)? To be fair, it helps on this end to have worked for a measurement instrument manufacturer, so we could borrow them and take them home.
While theory is a starting point, we (former) engineers rely very heavily on T&M equipment, to get the facts. High levels of moisture are not necessarily visible, so if you can post measured levels of RH, AT and CT, perhaps their may be some credibility.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:17 PM
 
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If there is a window with a 220v connection nearby, you can purchase a A/C unit that has a heater controls for around $700.

LG 18,000 BTU Heat/Cool Window Air Conditioner w/ Remote - LW1810HR
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