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Old 05-22-2013, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Simmering in DFW
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If they weren't doing this for you... what WOULD they be doing?

What are they capable of doing? Can they do this without supervision?
Have they done it before? Well? Do they have any of the needed tools?

Most adults doing this sort of day labor work who have any of that competence,
experience, tools, and so forth are already advertising as "handy man".

The person would be doing nothing or looking for work when not doing this stuff for me, as he is unemployed and needs the work and I need the work done. I don't have any reason at all to mistrust this person as we know eachother quite well. Its not just some worker I am picking up from craigslist. What he is capable of doing is kind of irrelevant in my mind because I am paying him to do this work, not to design a spaceship or teach a high school biology class. Both he and I have all the tools needed. I will buy and materials (caulk, shrubs, etc.) I do agree this is kind of handyman work but I think a bit lower level because it entails not even basic plumbing or electricity. I do normally use contractors and pay by the job but I just have such a variety of stuff and about 2 weeks of work (clean out storage shed, caulk, replace some weather strips, power wash, clean gutters, plant some shrubs) that I am just comfortable with an hourly rate. I do think $15 is a good rate and will pay that.....
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Southern New Hampshire
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I pay someone $20 an hour to do general labor on my old house (which I still own and am renting out). He knows I report it on my taxes and I give him a tax form too. $10 or $15 an hour sounds really low, but then, my guy has to pay taxes so maybe it evens out.
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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I have done side work off and on over the years. I make $50 an hour. Then again I specialize in locksmithing, door and window repair, and cabinet work. When I say that I make $50 an hour, I usually work per job and know about how long a job will take me to do. It is not always perfect but the majority of time I can make it right around $50 an hour. I also have a minumum amount that I charge anyone. If someone wants me to come out to their home or business it is going to cost them $75.
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Old 05-22-2013, 05:18 PM
 
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What does "fair" mean? And why do you care?
The OP, like me, wants to make sure they're not underpaying someone, because doing so indicates you're greedy, mean-spirited, or so frugal as to be insulting to the person doing the work.
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Old 05-22-2013, 06:50 PM
 
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Outside of a high school kid or someone very inexperienced and/or desperate, $10-15/hr for a temporary job is not much at all, especially if you aren't paying cash (the person has to or should declare it as income). Do you estimate this will be all full days? Are parts of multiple days?

A CHEAP handyman in my area will want at least $30/hour (plus materials) and that's if he's close. Since it involves getting up on ladders, I think I'd want someone reputable, which means they are probably insured and will report the income... in such a case, $15/hr is an insult.... paying someone that or less in this litigious society? Mistake.
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Old 05-22-2013, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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Outside of a high school kid or someone very inexperienced and/or desperate, $10-15/hr for a temporary job is not much at all, especially if you aren't paying cash (the person has to or should declare it as income). Do you estimate this will be all full days? Are parts of multiple days?

A CHEAP handyman in my area will want at least $30/hour (plus materials) and that's if he's close. Since it involves getting up on ladders, I think I'd want someone reputable, which means they are probably insured and will report the income... in such a case, $15/hr is an insult.... paying someone that or less in this litigious society? Mistake.
Before I hired my guys, I ASKED what the charge was. If I'm told $10 or $15 an hour, what's the problem??
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:15 PM
 
Location: SE Michigan
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I know who will be doing the work already and he is willing to do it at whatever rate I will pay. I do care about fair. That's just who I am.
Is this the same amateur handyman/painter/wannabe you told me about who messed up another job that he did on the way cheap and then wanted the homeowner to buy more equipment and tools so he could, maybe, finish it up to her satisfaction after he screwed up?

Since you're paying cash, I'd say ten-fifteen bucks an hour...but a fixed price for the job would be more fair to everyone and presumably this person has some sort of an idea how long it will take him to caulk some windows and do some power washing. If he doesn't, then you're not dealing with someone who even pretends to be a professional.
Who owns the equipment? Is he insured?

You very often get what you pay for....which of you is the party most likely to know what the job is worth? If neither you are a multi-property rental owner, or this dude as a supposed handyman, know what to charge, well that is a problem.
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:20 PM
 
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Before I hired my guys, I ASKED what the charge was. If I'm told $10 or $15 an hour, what's the problem??
Make sure you are there to hold the ladder and supervise?
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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Make sure you are there to hold the ladder and supervise?
I'm not the OP. He asked a simple question and I answered what I knew to be true where I live. I am not hiring anybody at the present. BUT I have hired the same people, several times, and am happy with their work.
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:39 PM
 
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I'm not the OP. He asked a simple question and I answered what I knew to be true where I live. I am not hiring anybody at the present. BUT I have hired the same people, several times, and am happy with their work.

Hey, I'm not saying it isn't possible to get quality labor at the prices you are talking, but I certainly wouldn't bet on it.
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