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Old 12-15-2013, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Light bulb manufacturers will cease making traditional 40 and 60-watt light bulbs -- the most popular in the country -- at the start of 2014.

This comes after the controversial phasing out of incandescent 75 and 100-watt light bulbs at the beginning of 2013.

Light bulb ban set to take effect - Dec. 13, 2013
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Old 12-16-2013, 10:12 AM
 
Location: WA
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At least right now you can still purchase all of the incandescent bulbs in question. I have added to my modest inventory and would rather use LED's but they still have not reached a price point that is attractive to me.
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Old 12-16-2013, 10:22 AM
 
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Looks like next year I'll be tax deducting for all the light bulbs I replace. I'll be sure the gubment gives me back all the money I had to invest to cover the difference in cost for the bulb. I was hoping they would wait until the tech reduces the prices of these "alternative" bulbs to be more in line with affordable pricing. $10 a bulb is still a high price to pay considering it will be years and possible a decade or more before you see the cost savings in relation to the initial buy.
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Old 12-16-2013, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Berkeley Neighborhood, Denver, CO USA
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Default Stop whining

Not all household incandescent light bulbs are going to disappear | cleveland.com

Philips EcoVantage 43-Watt (60-Watt) A19 Soft White Dimmable Light Bulb (4-Pack)-426031 at The Home Depot
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Old 12-16-2013, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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I hate the curly light bulbs, I think they are ugly and give off crappy light.
I have them in the bathroom because I have a covering over them, but it is dim when you first go in, then it gets brighter. I really don't like them.

What happened to freedom?, I want regular lights I hate LED lights.


also these new light bulbs are not going to save me any money on my electricity the rates are so high already, and then i have to buy new light bulb that are more money anyway.

please, if they want people to conserve energy they should stop making clothes dryers and make everyone hang their clothes out to dry, and mother nature will dry them for free, that will save energy, dryers consume the most energy, not a freaking light bulb.
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Old 12-16-2013, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Queen Creek, AZ
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please, if they want people to conserve energy they should stop making clothes dryers and make everyone hang their clothes out to dry, and mother nature will dry them for free, that will save energy, dryers consume the most energy, not a freaking light bulb.
Actually, heating and cooling systems consume more energy than dryers do. Heck, even our pool pump consumes more energy than our dryer. However, heating and cooling systems have gotten more and more efficient over the years, while there isn't much way to make incandescent bulbs more efficient due to their inherent inefficiency.

Note that there is a proposed mandate to require gas furnaces with an AFUE of at least 90% in northern states. This mandate was supposed to go into effect on May 1 of this year, however, this mandate is being challenged on the grounds of the vastly different installation requirements of condensing furnaces, which would be a very expensive upgrade if replacing an older non-condensing furnace. Condensing furnaces cannot be placed in attics due to potential freezing and water leakage, and require PVC vents due to their condensing nature.

Similarly, there is a similar mandate for air conditioners going into effect in 2015, which will require at least 14 SEER central air conditioning systems in the southern United States. Unlike the furnace mandate, however, I don't expect there will be much opposition to the air conditioner mandate since installation requirements for 14 SEER central air conditioning systems aren't much different from 13 SEER systems.

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Old 12-16-2013, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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Actually, heating and cooling systems consume more energy than dryers do. Heck, even our pool pump consumes more energy than our dryer. However, heating and cooling systems have gotten more and more efficient over the years, while there isn't much way to make incandescent bulbs more efficient due to their inherent inefficiency.

Note that there is a proposed mandate to require gas furnaces with an AFUE of at least 90% in northern states. This mandate was supposed to go into effect on May 1 of this year, however, this mandate is being challenged on the grounds of the vastly different installation requirements of condensing furnaces, which would be a very expensive upgrade if replacing an older non-condensing furnace. Condensing furnaces cannot be placed in attics due to potential freezing and water leakage, and require PVC vents due to their condensing nature.

Similarly, there is a similar mandate for air conditioners going into effect in 2015, which will require at least 14 SEER central air conditioning systems in the southern United States. Unlike the furnace mandate, however, I don't expect there will be much opposition to the air conditioner mandate since installation requirements for 14 SEER central air conditioning systems aren't much different from 13 SEER systems.

With and all this technical crap, all you need is a piece of rope and a pack of clothespins and you are already saving energy and money.
Why do you need all these high tech things to save money, that cost money to have.

Yet the little old piece of rope, always seems to be forgotten about.

So simple,yet overlooked.

I guess people feel better when they spend thousands of dollars on energy efficient equipment instead of a piece of rope.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:21 PM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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What happened to freedom?, I want regular lights I hate LED lights.
That was regulated out in 2007.
This is not some recent event.....
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:26 PM
 
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That was regulated out in 2007.
This is not some recent event.....
Exactly. And CFL bulbs are like $1.25 each.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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That was regulated out in 2007.
This is not some recent event.....

I need to come out from under my rock once and a while, you can tell I havent bought a lightbult in years.

Actually most of my lighting is halogen anyway.
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