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Old 02-14-2014, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Thanks for the responses thus far. And I appreciate the tough love, even though it is not what I necessarily wanted to hear. I figured I would give some responses to questions and also add a picture of the kitchen for some more perspective.

The fact is, we may never save the 30k we would likely need to do it right. So I suppose the question could be turned to, what can we do to make it better, and make us more happy, that would not look ridiculous, using a modest budget?

Our kitchen is by no means large but it is not small either. I think the cabinet quote is high because of the fact that the kitchen has a lot of cabinets. I would consider wood countertops but what would the cost of that be compared to say the 5k I mentioned? Would it be signifcantly cheaper? What about the idea of painting the cabinets? Would take a good deal a work and be messy but could that take us closer to matching cabinets to nice counter?

Not a fan of laminate counters and would just as soon get tile. At least, based on what I picture to be laminate. That would not make us any happier.
Be sure to look around before you choose tile with all those grout lines for kitchen countertops. Some formica looks really good. Check out what this person did with 180fx formica laminate:

Our New Kitchen Countertops and Gorgeous Quartz Sink! {Kitchen Remodel} - Decorchick!
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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Live in a house that was built in the 50's. The kitchen is outdated and my wife and I desperately want to update, but don't have the funds to do a full remodel. The countertops are especially bad, as they are tiles in a burnt orange that need regrouting at the very least. Obviously, the preference would be to destroy them.

The cabinets were actually resurfaced probably 15 years are withe a light wood laminate over what I think are the original cabinets. The doors are flat. Structurally, the cabinets are rock solid and do not appear to have any issues, except that they are boring and probably would not look great with nice counters.

We have priced new quartz counters in a grey, cement like tone. The average is about 5k demoing current counters and installing new ones. We could swing this, no problem. But estimates for the cabinets are 15k for the cheapest of the cheap. That would not be good regardless.

We have not priced the cost of resurfacing cabinets but if it was 10k, that's probably too rich as well. If we replaced counters, I imagine we could not then replace cabinets later but might have a chance to resurface later. Does that seem sound?

So what to do. Would quartz counters with laminate cabinets look ridiculous in the meantime? Should we just grit our teeth and wait until we saved enough for the full deal? Any idea the cost of resurfacing with something other than laminate versus full replacement?

Thanks.

Recent kitchen remodel on rental
I went to Home Depot bought US made cabinets and granite countertops including free sink. I installed cabinets. And they installed granite and set sink. $8700 bucks for cabinets granite and sink. Granite has gotten so cheap anymore it's almost a given for install.

I would save until you have the money to do it all paid in CASH.
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:33 PM
 
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Just another thought, if you do replace your cabinets, you might want to skip the two that hang above the island or pass htorugh unless you really need the extra storage. It would save you from having to buy those two cabinets and it would open the room up more and in my opinion, look nicer.
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:48 PM
 
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Thanks again for the advice. As for the most recent suggestion, not only would be consider eliminating the two cabinets over the pass through, I have to keep the sledgehammer away from my wife on a weekly basis because she wants those things gone gone gone...like, yesterday.

And I will give a bit more info on the cabinet estimate. We only got one, and it was informal, from a big box store based on pictures. What you can see from the pic I posted is that we do indeed have a lot of cabinets. We've never received a formal bid on them, but the two or three we did a year ago also came in high. The reaction we get is, wow, that's a lot of cabinets.
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Old 02-14-2014, 01:00 PM
 
Location: West Chester Pa
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I found that as long as you have sound cabinets do a reface. Ive done several myself making new doors and veneer cabinets with oak.Also doors can be purchased elsewhere already made to your dimensions.Same goes with counter tops. make new with particle board sheets and laminate with a nice surface to look like granite.Takes a little time but saves a lot.
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Old 02-14-2014, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Two things to point out, IMO.

One, If you end up deciding to paint your existing cabinets, either with the existing doors or with new ones, DO NOT TAKE SHORTCUTS in the prep work or in the actual finishing. And also, be sure you have a high ( I was going to say GOOD, but it needs to be better than that ) quality paint. Otherwise you will never, ever be happy with it.

Two, take a look again at laminates. We have one laminate top in our showroom that gets studied many times by clients coming in, who have done their research and have even been comparison shopping. They will invariably want to know what kind of stone it is. I think you really want to check out those options before you totally dismiss them. Keep in mind that some of the laminate options are proprietary and may not be available in all locations or at all dealers. Usually independents have more options available.

Amen on this, a thousand times!!

When we bought our house (in the 80s) the original dark kitchen cabinets had been recently painted a nice almond-y white (not almond, not white, but a shade inbetween). It was so pretty, with new handles . . .

About a month after we moved in, we bumped one of the cabinets -- and the paint chipped . . . and started peeling. My son, on his little "car", bumped into the cabinets -- more peeling . . . oh, my goodness, what a MESS. Turns out that the cabinets had not been primed and prepared -- you could still see where the cabinet underneath was still shiny!! Within a year, they looked like hell. Getting THAT paint off, plus re-finishing the old cabinets, was a nightmare. That was 20+ years ago -- and I swore that the next time, I was just going to pitch 'em and get new cabinets. So I've started shopping . . . . :-)
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Old 02-14-2014, 02:10 PM
 
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Is there another wall of cabinets out of the picture? What I see is looks like a square "u" of three walls. Not a lot of cabinets.

How many linear feet of counter do you have?

The cabinets don't bother me as much as the awful tile counter... and the pulls on the cabinets.

Yes, I'd get rid of those two wall cabinets as well. But easy with the hammer. You don't want to screw up the drywall too badly!
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Old 02-14-2014, 02:35 PM
 
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Is there another wall of cabinets out of the picture? What I see is looks like a square "u" of three walls. Not a lot of cabinets.

How many linear feet of counter do you have?

The cabinets don't bother me as much as the awful tile counter... and the pulls on the cabinets.

Yes, I'd get rid of those two wall cabinets as well. But easy with the hammer. You don't want to screw up the drywall too badly!
Thanks. You certainly understand me, especially with regard to the countertops.

As to your questions, let me see if I can clarify with more pictures. Perhaps you could tell me whether you feel this is a lot of cabinets or not.








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Old 02-14-2014, 02:53 PM
 
Location: In a happy place
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Lighting for photographs can be deceiving at times, but the current color of your cabinets looks like it isn't too far from the shades that seem to be fairly popular in our area right now.

If the finish is in good shape on them yet and your appliances are OK, you might just consider replacing the countertops/backsplash and the hardware. You could get somewhat of an idea of how this would look by finding hardware that you like and replacing the ones to the right of the refrigerator. Then decide what you like for a basic color for the countertop, find some paper that color or paint some posterboard and cover the top and backsplash to the right of the refrigerator.

It won't be exact, but it can give you a better feel for where you are headed without the effort and expense of replacing a lot of stuff that isn't necessary. If it doesn't look right, you can still look at replacing/refacing the cabinets. But those decisions can be made BEFORE spending much money.
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Old 02-14-2014, 02:56 PM
 
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If money is tight, I would not want to demo a functional kitchen.

I realize many kitchens are done for pure aesthetic reasons and nothing wrong with that.

One of the biggest complaints I hear is lack of cabinet space... of course you know your needs best.

I've done low end and moderate kitchens and found there is a lot of room to negotiate.

The key is to know what you want... then the only question is price... not unusual to get several bids and see 20 to 30% variance... again, make sure each bid is for similar style, construction and material.

If you plan to make this your forever home and can afford it... why not?

If money is tight, save untill you can afford it and by then you might have changed your mind or taste.
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