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Old 12-03-2015, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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To each his own.

My husband and I are both sentimental. We enjoy buying unique items when we travel, and we enjoy the tangible reminder of those trips together and through our lives. For instance, I lived in Japan as a little girl. When I see the framed beautiful silk tapestry that my dad bought when I was small, that I've seen hanging in every home I've lived in since I was five, I smile. It brings back a flood of memories. Sure they're always there, but I like the reminder hanging in my house. It reminds me of my childhood, my parents, our happy adventures together.

Same with the little wooden box and the set of antique keys (to nothing that I own) sitting on top of the armoire from the 1700s that I brought back home from Germany. And the porcelain sheep that I bought in Yorkshire - in memory of the moors filled with sheep that were such an integral part of that landscape.

I don't care if other people don't like these items, or think they're junk, or just wouldn't have them in their house. It's my house. I like these things. They make me smile. They bring back precious memories.

I'm not standing in judgment of people who don't like knick knacks or tangible items with memories attached. It honestly doesn't occur to me to judge them for that. And I'd like for them to return that favor.

OMG, don't even start with the little "wooden boxes" or any little boxes, we too have a collection of them from all over. The last one we just got was from a tenant in our building that we helped her lug all her luggage down 3 flights of stairs, so she brought us back a beautiful blue mirrored box in side a box inside a box from India....I have it on the table near the window when the sun shines in a certain way, it make orbes all over...............................k :
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Old 12-03-2015, 07:48 PM
 
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By "chucking" I hope you mean selling or donating? Goodwill may only get a buck for them but that's still better than in a landfill.
I actually drove away without donating what I had brought to our local Goodwill because the guy in receiving looked about to cry as he said, "No more room at the Inn!" And behind him loomed a 12 foot high pile of donations!

I'll bring my things back after the new year.

I guess our recycling minded townspeople are very good at donating!
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Old 12-03-2015, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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heres another one of my decluttering things I am going to be doing this January.

I'm going thru all my music CD's, and what ever I haven't listened to within this past year I am chucking.

I have all the stuff on my computer anyway so I don't need the actual CD's. I have the certain sets that I do listen to and the rest are there collecting dust, so this is my next project.
We-ll, ........

if all those songs are on your computer by other legal purchases, okay; if they are on there because they were copied from the CD's now being chucked.....................

..........................I hope that your definition of "Fair Use" protects you to the end of days.

My definition of "Fair Use" (in the latter situation of above) is that there has to be in day to day situation (don't have answer for in case of disaster such as fire) a properly bought source that working copies (ie, such as that stored on computer) are derived from. (let's not get into the fine legal back and forth in this, the house, forum)

De Clutter wise, either A or B. A: Take all the CD's that are no longer listened to and box them up for storage. B: Ditch them if there are copies and hope one's definition of "Fair Use" lasts them to the end of days.
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Old 12-03-2015, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Copying CDs onto a computer for personal use has nothing to do with fair use. And per RIAA, it's legal, proably, as long as it's for private, noncommercial use and the person isn't sharing the materials in any way. You may not want to get into legal back and forth but that doesn't mean you should throw around legal terms like fair use when it's not being accurately used.
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Old 12-03-2015, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Copying CDs onto a computer for personal use has nothing to do with fair use. And per RIAA, it's legal, proably, as long as it's for private, noncommercial use and the person isn't sharing the materials in any way. You may not want to get into legal back and forth but that doesn't mean you should throw around legal terms like fair use when it's not being accurately used.
Well, per your statement above, that is not quite what is on the table.

What I was saying was the copying of the CD and then getting rid of the original.

As far as "Fair Use" goes, I go by what the software companies told me years ago. That I could make working copies but if I got rid of the originals, everything had to go to include the manuals and the working copies.

So, as I said, if one is going to go that route, I hope their definition of "Fair Use" protects them to the end of their days.
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Old 12-04-2015, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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We-ll, ........

if all those songs are on your computer by other legal purchases, okay; if they are on there because they were copied from the CD's now being chucked.....................

..........................I hope that your definition of "Fair Use" protects you to the end of days.

My definition of "Fair Use" (in the latter situation of above) is that there has to be in day to day situation (don't have answer for in case of disaster such as fire) a properly bought source that working copies (ie, such as that stored on computer) are derived from. (let's not get into the fine legal back and forth in this, the house, forum)

De Clutter wise, either A or B. A: Take all the CD's that are no longer listened to and box them up for storage. B: Ditch them if there are copies and hope one's definition of "Fair Use" lasts them to the end of days.

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This is way too much for me to comprehend...i dont even get this?????



any CD that I haven't listened to within this last year, I am chucking in the garbage. period and end of it.

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Old 12-04-2015, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Well, per your statement above, that is not quite what is on the table.

What I was saying was the copying of the CD and then getting rid of the original.

As far as "Fair Use" goes, I go by what the software companies told me years ago. That I could make working copies but if I got rid of the originals, everything had to go to include the manuals and the working copies.

So, as I said, if one is going to go that route, I hope their definition of "Fair Use" protects them to the end of their days.
And again, this is not what Fair Use is.

Fair Use is a specific legal doctrine that has to do with copying or excerpting from copyrighted material without obtaining permission from the copyright owner and having a "transformative use" - meaning you have to do something with it, not just copy it. The typical use is for a critique or review - so in a book review, you can quote a couple of passages. Or for parody or satire - think Weird Al (although my understanding is that he always got permission first anyway). There are some limited educational use exceptions as well.

Making a copy of something that you legitimately purchased in the first place for your own personal use isn't "fair use" and you don't just get to make up a definition when you are using a legal term.
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Old 12-04-2015, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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I'm sorry I brought it up, Yikes!, all I wanted to do was throw out CD's that I don't listen too.
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