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Old 12-04-2015, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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I've never been in a house or apartment with them. But I've never been in a new build either.
I became the second owner of a Pulte house when it was still under the builder's warranty. No GFCI outlets in the kitchen, but they are in the bathrooms. Go figure. My inspector found it so it was taken care of, but the original owners lived there for four years (with two toddlers much of the time) and either never noticed or never bothered to have Pulte come in to correct their code violation.
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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Have an electrician test the outlets in the kitchen to see if they are grounded. It won't cost much.



No, it just means the house was built before GFCI in the kitchen became code, and the owners just never updated it.
Yes.
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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"Their code violation"(?)
I hardly doubt that. Besides, you offered no other information that would prove or disprove this statement.

Year the house was built?
Which NEC code was in effect/being followed at the time?
There could be other extenuating circumstances...

Bathrooms were the first for GFCI's- 1975. Kitchens weren't required until 1987 (and that was just for any recepticale within 6' of the sink).

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Old 12-05-2015, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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NOT having any GFCI is NOT in-and-of-itself dangerous OR illegal(depending on when that wiring was done), the only thing GFCI does is make sure the electric doesn't use YOU as a return path.

Trip levels > GFCI 5ma .. The main breaker 15 or 20 AMPS ... DEATH to the person ~50ma

You can install GFCI outlets where there isn't a third wire "ground", it will work exactly the same but must be tagged "No Equipment Ground"(to be legal).
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Old 12-09-2015, 04:06 PM
 
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NOT having any GFCI is NOT in-and-of-itself dangerous OR illegal(depending on when that wiring was done), the only thing GFCI does is make sure the electric doesn't use YOU as a return path.

Trip levels > GFCI 5ma .. The main breaker 15 or 20 AMPS ... DEATH to the person ~50ma

You can install GFCI outlets where there isn't a third wire "ground", it will work exactly the same but must be tagged "No Equipment Ground"(to be legal).
There has been a substantial reduction in electrocution the last few decades, and no doubt GFCI protection is responsible for much of it. Convert now! You never know when it can happen to you.
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