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Old 10-27-2018, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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Recently we had and exciting night while the old smoke detector died and in a spectacular display of noise, it went off with an alarm and warnings and so on. The guy installed a new one which can sense smoke in incruments as well. And when a heat source gets hot it does a warning. But I'm still very unnerved by the time when it went off and wacko.


And now its cold and I have three blankets and a dog and two cats on the bed for warmth. It was on the lowest setting, just taking the edge off of the cold, but did its five button beep. And no way can I reach the ceiling like that.


The real problem is its getting a LOT colder and I will have to have the gas heater on. Its got lots of safety tests and buttons and an overheating shut down, but if it will set off warning with a teeny little desk warmer, I am concerned about my gas system. And I can't spend the whole winter in five layers.


Anybody have this problem, and any ideas on getting heat without alarms.
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Old 10-27-2018, 11:00 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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How far away does a heat source cause a buzzer to go off on a smoke detector?
If they are installed correctly HEAT alone will never cause a false alert. Smoke from cooking otoh...
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Old 10-27-2018, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Recently we had and exciting night while the old smoke detector died and in a spectacular display of noise, it went off with an alarm and warnings and so on. The guy installed a new one which can sense smoke in incruments as well. And when a heat source gets hot it does a warning. But I'm still very unnerved by the time when it went off and wacko.


And now its cold and I have three blankets and a dog and two cats on the bed for warmth. It was on the lowest setting, just taking the edge off of the cold, but did its five button beep. And no way can I reach the ceiling like that.


The real problem is its getting a LOT colder and I will have to have the gas heater on. Its got lots of safety tests and buttons and an overheating shut down, but if it will set off warning with a teeny little desk warmer, I am concerned about my gas system. And I can't spend the whole winter in five layers.


Anybody have this problem, and any ideas on getting heat without alarms.
What you wrote is confusing. Have you had your main heat on yet? What was that about a teeny little desk warmer?
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Old 10-27-2018, 04:09 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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If they are installed correctly HEAT alone will never cause a false alert. Smoke from cooking otoh...
Exactly. The SMOKE detector is detecting opacity/particles in the air, not heat.
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Old 10-28-2018, 05:20 AM
 
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my alarm uses not only smoke and heat detectors but in certain areas i use rate of rise detectors. those don't wait for smoke or some temperature to be reached. if they see a quick jump in temperature even at low levels it signals the alarm .
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Old 10-30-2018, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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my alarm uses not only smoke and heat detectors but in certain areas i use rate of rise detectors. those don't wait for smoke or some temperature to be reached. if they see a quick jump in temperature even at low levels it signals the alarm .
Are you saying the detector will go off if you push the heat up? Just how sensitive is this? Is there a lower limit that it would have to go above before it activates?
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Old 11-01-2018, 10:48 AM
 
Location: NJ
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A smoke detector should never go off from heat. a heat detector will however. But heat detectors are usually set for over 100 degrees. usually 120 or higher. Yours may be be set too sensitively and its picking up a pocket of hot air as a potential precursor to a fire. You should contact the manufacturer.
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:56 AM
 
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Are you saying the detector will go off if you push the heat up? Just how sensitive is this? Is there a lower limit that it would have to go above before it activates?
heating a room is a relatively slow event . a rate of rise detector needs to see a rise way way faster , like from a smoke less fire that has not gotten hot enough for a heat detector to pick up on..
I used both a heat detector and rate of rise in the basement by the furnace . It takes a very very fast rise to set it off
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