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Old 02-15-2008, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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We spent good money having a 6' high cedar fence installed. After heavy rains and strong winds, about 5 of the posts holding up the fencing are leaning about 6" towards the front of the house. We can go to the front of the fence and push the posts straight up again but how do we support.

The posts were not cemented in the ground. We called the installer and he wants $500 to fix the posts but can't guarantee it won't happen again.

Can anyone tell us how we can go about supporting the posts upright.
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Old 02-15-2008, 04:29 PM
 
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We spent good money having a 6' high cedar fence installed. After heavy rains and strong winds, about 5 of the posts holding up the fencing are leaning about 6" towards the front of the house. We can go to the front of the fence and push the posts straight up again but how do we support.

The posts were not cemented in the ground. We called the installer and he wants $500 to fix the posts but can't guarantee it won't happen again.

Can anyone tell us how we can go about supporting the posts upright.
That makes me sooooo mad when contractors will not back there work. Get some photos.
I would support it with boards propped against it for now. In the spring you can add dirt. If should have been cemented. I would take the contractor to small claims court. Of course, if his word and his work are the same that may not help.
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Old 02-15-2008, 05:05 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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It doesn't sound like the posts were long enough to begin with or they weren't filled properly. You can dig out under the posts about 8" and fill with packed gravel/pea stone. Set the post back in the proper position and fill with more packed gravel/pea stone all the way up or a couple of inches of the packed stone and the rest of the way with concrete. Really though I would expect the contractor to fix the problem free of charge for a recent job. I'd consider doing as Driller1 said and going to small claims.
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Old 02-15-2008, 05:11 PM
 
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wow!! id be pissed!! everyone knows you MUST cement fence posts!! I didnt even think not cementing them was an option.
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Old 02-15-2008, 05:52 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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It's often a better idea not to cement the post so it drains better and prolongs the life of the post. If you do cement it's usually better to put the post in first, add pack, then cement so water can't pool at the bottom of the post and rot it.
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Old 02-15-2008, 06:04 PM
 
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Default Shoddy Work... Contract License Complaint.

I assume he's already been paid?

If it is leaning now, it won't stand up to any significant wind.

If he is licensed and in my state he is required to be you can file a complaint with the Contractor's License Board, the Better Business Bureau and also you Insurance Company if they referred him to you.

Cement isn't essential... I've done many fence posts 30" deep and filled the hole with compacted crushed gravel in rocky solid... I've also used cement in place of gravel in dirt.

Sounds like neither was done...
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Old 02-16-2008, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Thank you all for your advice. I'm going to talk to my husband about speaking to the owner of the fence company one more time and if not satisfied, we will contact the BBB and the Contractor's License Board.
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Old 02-16-2008, 07:05 AM
 
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This is something that has worked for me. Get small claims forms and fill them out. Send him a copy. Just ask the question, "should I mail this or not"? "Your silence will be my answer in five days". Go ahead and contact the Contractor's Board. If he is not licensed, they should know. If he is, they still should know. Yes, I am saying do not give him a chance with the board.
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Old 02-17-2008, 01:41 PM
 
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I think for future reference, to avoid court altogether, being very clear what the best practices are, stipulate in a contract, and a bit of discrete supervision during the job could spare you grief. Prevention is a better investment. Homework= forewarned is forearmed.
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:31 AM
 
Location: St Augustine
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I would add your own cement if the contractor won't

We used atleast 1 bag cement per pole, sometimes more, while building our fence. They instructions didn't require it but my husband likes to be sure (he'll use 10 screws when it calls for 6)

The cement we used comes in a heavy bag, but you just pour it in the hole and run the hose around it until its mushy and keep poking it with a stick to get the air out.
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