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Old 10-18-2016, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Most likely some pranksters stole it and dumped it on someone's lawn. Just hope your name wasn't on anything or you could get blamed for it. Like the young girl in the news who was fined for dumping garbage, because someone dropped one of the family's bags in the street and her name and address was on something inside.
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Old 10-18-2016, 08:15 PM
 
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USAF Colonel with a TS/SCI (not me; a relative)? Was told it "could".
If anyone does that, it's because you already have a clearance and they suspect you of misusing it. Getting a clearance is a matter of things that are record--like criminal and financial records--and character revealed from people who know you (and they cast that net very wide) and polygraph testing.

If anyone goes through trash, it's to find evidence to use against you--they would reject you for clearance long before going to the trouble of going through a relative's trash.

I had a TS/SCI for more than a quarter of a century.
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Old 10-18-2016, 10:17 PM
 
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We also shred all bills and divide the shreddings up into various bags of trash which we take directly to the dump ourselves. We don't do trash collection. The only mail that ends up directly in the trash is junk mail.
Even if it is just "junk mail", make sure it doesn't have your name and address on it. When we get junk mail, we take off our name and address (rip it off either the envelope or flyer) and shred it.
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Old 10-18-2016, 10:23 PM
 
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Please. What do you folks do to safeguard your bills, etc., after the postal carrier leaves them in your unsecured mail box? Wouldn't it be a lot easier for an identity thief to pull a bill out of your mail box than to steal whole bags full of garbage HOPING they will find the 1 in a hundred credit card bill that actually has a complete account number on it? And NO bill will also have your expiration date or three digit security number on it, so no value for an online purchase. Think about it.
We got a PO Box just for that reason. We make sure all our credit card bills go to the PO Box. As for other bills, we have them go to the PO Box, also. However, our electric company, for some reason, only allows the bills to go to the house.

They do make mailboxes that can be partially locked:

https://www.wayfair.com/All-Mailboxe...FdFbhgod1dYHJA

Unfortunately, our HOA doesn't allow them.
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Old 10-19-2016, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, Fl
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Are you being investigated for anything? Just saying...
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Old 10-19-2016, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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usaf colonel with a ts/sci (not me; a relative)? Was told it "could".
lol
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Old 10-19-2016, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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If anyone does that, it's because you already have a clearance and they suspect you of misusing it. Getting a clearance is a matter of things that are record--like criminal and financial records--and character revealed from people who know you (and they cast that net very wide) and polygraph testing.

If anyone goes through trash, it's to find evidence to use against you--they would reject you for clearance long before going to the trouble of going through a relative's trash.

I had a TS/SCI for more than a quarter of a century.
Going through the trash and moving and leaving the trash can on the curb does not sound like someone who could get a warrant would do at all. There is some liability with entering a person's property and moving things. Taking the trash when it is on your property without a warrant? Good luck with that.

They just do not need to do this.
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Old 10-19-2016, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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It's not pananoia, it's the way it is now. I once found someone's opened mail in my front yard. It included bills wth checks that the homeowner had left out for the letter carrier... envelopes torn open, all the checks were gone. There were also credit apps to the homeowner...torn open & apps gone. When I called the local post office, they refused to come for it. A volunteer with local sheriff came. My mail was stolen in the past...nightmare.

Shred everything with your name on it, including address labels on catalogs, magazines, invoices, rx labels, junk mail.

Keep trash can in secure place until collection time.

Don't leave outgoing mail, epecially checks with bills, out in your box for letter carrier to take. Take to PO, or mailbox before last collection time...yes a PITA, but alternative is worse.

Also, put loose, unbagged dog poop on top of your outside trash, it's a deterrent to trash thieves.


Get a STURDY locking mailbox.
Personally I just burn anything that could potentially have any personal information on it, then soak the remains in water for a week before composting to be sure it is all completely obliterated. Plants don't talk!
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Old 10-19-2016, 07:58 AM
 
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Going through the trash and moving and leaving the trash can on the curb does not sound like someone who could get a warrant would do at all. There is some liability with entering a person's property and moving things. Taking the trash when it is on your property without a warrant? Good luck with that.

They just do not need to do this.
I'm not particularly arguing that any government officials had anything to do with it at all, except that if they did, it was to find evidence in a crime investigation...not a security clearance investigation.
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:13 AM
 
Location: God's Country
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Don't complain, someone ran off with my trash bin ..... and left the trash. Yeah, they pulled out four plastic bags worth, left them on the driveway, and scooted with the container, even though I had painted the house address no. on it.
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