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Old 11-14-2016, 10:27 AM
 
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Old 11-14-2016, 10:29 AM
 
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My boss used to use one of those plug in oil radiator type heaters in his office which worked quite nicely.
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Old 11-14-2016, 10:31 AM
 
Location: WMHT
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Post As previously mentioned, all resistive electric space heaters are equal, there's nothing special about oil-filled

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I am with MikeBear and LifeisGood01. I found the oil filled radiator style provided the most heat for the buck.
For a 360 square foot bedroom, I expect OP will need something with a fan to distribute the heat evenly. All electric resistive heaters are equally efficient, the same (high) cost in $ per delivered BTU.

If you want to save money, instead of heating the whole room, just heat the bed -- electric blankets and mattress pads have the advantage of delivering heat directly to you.

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This one is easy- (DuraFlame Log)
I wanted to snark about the cost per BTU for Duraflame logs, but from what little I can find out about these fake firelogs, Duraflame might actually be a pretty good deal financially, once you get past the "burning crayon" smell.

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I don't know how those work, but anything with a flame and gas is not something that I would want in my home. I'm glad we don't even have gas lines in my neighborhood. I've gotten use to electric stoves and I find the ovens to be more even heating that the gas ovens.
The direct-vent wall furnaces are about as safe as you can get -- all the gas and fire components are sealed in a combustion chamber that is only connected to the outside, and shutdown automatically if anything isn't right.

I suspect portable electric space heaters (including oil-filled) pose much more risk than a properly maintained gas wall furnace.
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Old 11-14-2016, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Funny, I always thought the ceramic disk heaters were more efficient. Apparently not.
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Old 11-14-2016, 04:41 PM
 
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I am with MikeBear and LifeisGood01. I found the oil filled radiator style provided the most heat for the buck.
There is no most heat for your buck, all electric heaters produce the same amount of heat per kWh. That said an oil filled heater is slow to heat up and slow to cool. Many people may find it to be more comfortable, especially when the room has been brought up to the desired temperature. It's much more steady than the on/off heat you will get with something like a ceramic heater that has a fan. Similarly most people find hot water baseboard radiators more comfortable than ducted heating. At the end of the day to maintain the same average room temperature it's going to cost you the same amount of money no matter what type of electric heater you buy.
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Old 11-14-2016, 04:54 PM
 
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Funny, I always thought the ceramic disk heaters were more efficient. Apparently not.
The advantage with them is they heat a large volume of air consistently which leads to better distribution. An old electric heater with elements and a fan does not have the same consistency. The temperature of hot air coming out may be all over the charts depending on where it exited the unit.
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Old 11-14-2016, 04:57 PM
 
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There is no most heat for your buck, all electric heaters produce the same amount of heat per kWh. That said an oil filled heater is slow to heat up and slow to cool. Many people may find it to be more comfortable, especially when the room has been brought up to the desired temperature. It's much more steady than the on/off heat you will get with something like a ceramic heater that has a fan. Similarly most people find hot water baseboard radiators more comfortable than ducted heating. At the end of the day to maintain the same average room temperature it's going to cost you the same amount of money no matter what type of electric heater you buy.
but with an oil filled radiator you don't have to heat the whole house at the same time, you can just put it a few feet from the bed since they have a huge bedroom and heat only that area. I just bought one with 7 fins at Walmart for $35.
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Old 11-14-2016, 04:57 PM
 
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This one is easy-
They do make other products like that which should be cheaper and can be bought in bulk, basically a giant pellet and the pricing would be similar.


Envi Blocks - The Friendly Firewood - at Barefoot Pellet Company - Troy PA.
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Old 11-14-2016, 05:07 PM
 
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but with an oil filled radiator you don't have to heat the whole house at the same time, you can just put it a few feet from the bed since they have a huge bedroom and heat only that area.
Yes you can do that and is one thing that *may* save on your heating bills. If your primary heating source is electric savings can be substantial but I would suggest installing a thermostat in each room instead. If your primary heat source is low cost per BTU your savings are not that much. Depends on your local rates but generally speaking compared to coal, wood or natural gas you can heat 3 or 4 times the space it costs for the electric heater.
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Old 11-14-2016, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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Surprised no one has mentioned this yet - what about an electric blanket on the bed? At least for sleeping times, this is way more cost-effective than a portable resistance heater.
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