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Old 04-12-2017, 02:09 PM
 
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You say 3W per port, and refer to 4 ports.

That is 12W.

I wouldn't call that a "giant power hog" compared to the 100W bulb in my living room light fixture, or compared to a 750W electric space heater.

But maybe I misunderstood.
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Old 04-12-2017, 02:52 PM
 
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In 2017, why do you want Ethernet in your house? It's a power hog. You're much better off using WiFi for everything since you're already going to have WiFi for your smartphones. Unless your home is enormous or ancient where it has plaster walls with wire lath, one good quality WiFi router will cover the house.
Wireless immediately cuts your speed in half, at best. Wired is always better. You don't need it everywhere anymore but its certainly worth using. I have it between our two offices and our main TV (the Roku is plugged in) and we use wireless elsewhere as needed.
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Old 04-12-2017, 02:53 PM
 
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Stick a power meter on a router or switch driving a half-dozen gigabit Ethernet ports that are actually being used. It's a huge power hog. 3 watts per port is pretty typical for a 30 meter cable run. Most devices have a power saving mode where it lowers the speed. If it's only running 100 megabit/sec data rates, 802.11AC 3x3 is much faster.
How much power is the wireless modem using? And if I'm using all four ports, my power consumption is still less than most of my LED bulbs.

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In a single family home, use WiFi or MoCA (coaxial cable). The amount of power you have to burn to get gigabit rates down a 2 pair twisted cat5 cable bundle is really nasty.
MoCA is still wired. And how do you get connected from your router to MoCA? A device that is consuming power...
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Old 04-12-2017, 02:55 PM
 
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Stick a power meter on a router or switch driving a half-dozen gigabit Ethernet ports that are actually being used. It's a huge power hog. 3 watts per port is pretty typical for a 30 meter cable run. Most devices have a power saving mode where it lowers the speed. If it's only running 100 megabit/sec data rates, 802.11AC 3x3 is much faster.

I've been in the cable modem business for a bunch of years on the manufacturer/vendor engineering side of things. A 4 port cable modem gateway is a real power hog if all 4 ports are actually being used for gigabit Ethernet. The only time you want to run Ethernet is in an apartment building where there are a ton of WiFi routers interfering with each other. In a single family home, use WiFi or MoCA (coaxial cable). The amount of power you have to burn to get gigabit rates down a 2 pair twisted cat5 cable bundle is really nasty.

If you're using some ancient Best Buy $35.00 WiFi router, then yeah. WiFi is lousy. A good 3x3 802.11AC router is a couple hundred bucks. I paid $139.99 for an open box Netgear R7000 a couple of years ago on Amazon. Here's the SpeedTest result using the lousy 2x2 WiFi NIC on my laptop. For streaming video, WiFi simply isn't an issue.
Even my nerdiest of nerdy friends only has 2 gigabit ethernet devices, his server in the basement storing HD rips of all his pirated movies and the machine connected to the TV. 99.9% of people are not running 4 GigE ports at home.

Not to mention most cable modems (every one I've ever seen, actually) only has one single ethernet port. Not 4 and never a Gig port.
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Old 04-12-2017, 05:44 PM
 
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In most new homes they use CAT5 in place of telephone wire. The outlets in my phone can accept a traditional phone wire or CAT5, they are duel purpose. If not, the cat5 is probably behind the phone jack
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Old 04-12-2017, 05:51 PM
 
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Wireless. I'd like to kick people in the A$$ who call me from their homes on static garbage wireless and too cheap to use a landline. I can see wireless if you are saddled with only a laptop at home. Deskstop, it's silly not to hardwire it,
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Old 04-12-2017, 08:35 PM
 
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You say 3W per port, and refer to 4 ports.

That is 12W.

I wouldn't call that a "giant power hog" compared to the 100W bulb in my living room light fixture, or compared to a 750W electric space heater.

But maybe I misunderstood.
Agreed. That is only 288 watts a day, or 0.28 megawatts.

That is a cost of about 3 cents/day, or $11.00 a year.

I will happily pay $11.00 a year for a more reliable, faster connection.
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Old 04-12-2017, 09:54 PM
 
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We have both
Wired Ethernet for the home office computer TiVo, Apple TV, and NAS
Apple Airport express WiFi for everything else, tablets, laptops, smartphones & guests

Smarts phones on At&t also support WiFi calling and our call quality is fine
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Old 04-13-2017, 06:25 AM
 
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Agreed. That is only 288 watts a day, or 0.28 megawatts.

That is a cost of about 3 cents/day, or $11.00 a year.

I will happily pay $11.00 a year for a more reliable, faster connection.
You mean 288 watt-hours per day. Watts per day has no meaning in this context.

Nevertheless, I will always come down on the side of actual copper wires.
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Old 04-13-2017, 08:39 AM
 
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You mean 288 watt-hours per day. Watts per day has no meaning in this context.

Nevertheless, I will always come down on the side of actual copper wires.
You are correct. I used the wrong units. Nonetheless, the math is the same.

It is a minimal cost for higher performance. Hard-wire copper rules.
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