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Old 02-09-2018, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Finally the house is done and we are in Port St. Lucie!
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Is a Brownstone a "brownstone"; or is it a rowhouse, or townhouse?
In my limited research, a brownstone can be both row house and townhouse. The term brownstone comes from the color of the stone used. Brownstone is higher in iron which gives it the brown coloring.
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:38 AM
 
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I found this on Wikipedia and thought it was interesting:

In the United States and Canada, a townhouse has two connotations. The older predates the automobile and denotes a house on a small footprint in a city, but because of its multiple floors (sometimes six or more), it has a large living space, often with servants' quarters. The small footprint of the townhouse allows it to be within walking or mass-transit distance of business and industrial areas of the city yet luxurious enough for wealthy residents of the city.[2]
Townhouses are expensive where detached single-family houses are uncommon, such as in New York City, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, Toronto, Washington, DC, and San Francisco.
Rowhouses are similar and consist of several adjacent, uniform units originally found in older, pre-automobile urban areas such as Baltimore, Charleston (South Carolina), Savannah, and New Orleans but now found in lower-cost housing developments in suburbs as well. A townhouse is where there is a continuous roof and foundation and a single wall divides adjacent townhouses, but some have a double wall with inches-wide air space in between on a common foundation. A rowhouse will generally be smaller and less luxurious than a dwelling called a townhouse.
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Old 02-09-2018, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia/South Jersey area
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Argue this-

Is a Brownstone a "brownstone"; or is it a rowhouse, or townhouse?
So Brownstone actually was called that because of the color of the stone used. but it does have a very distinct connotations. at least in NYC. I grew up in a Brownstone in Harlem
Brownstones if not chop upped are usually very very big. Harlem and brooklyn brownstones are gorgeous
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Old 02-09-2018, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Saint John, IN
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Well, see that's a problem. That's really not an accurate definition of a row house. These are row houses in San Francisco. No one disputes as far as I know that they are row houses, yet they don't have shared walls
attaching them together.


Well if you know that answer than why are you asking us??
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Old 02-09-2018, 11:46 AM
 
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My question was about row houses verses townhouses and what the difference was. I've seen pictures of those "painted ladies" houses in San Francisco many times and I always heard them referenced as row houses, never townhouses even though they are not attached. Go back to my original post and see the questions I asked if you need to.
If you're troubled by my asking these questions then don't answer them. I really don't care.
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Old 02-09-2018, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Saint John, IN
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My question was about row houses verses townhouses and what the difference was. I've seen pictures of those "painted ladies" houses in San Francisco many times and I always heard them referenced as row houses, never townhouses even though they are not attached. Go back to my original post and see the questions I asked if you need to.
If you're troubled by my asking these questions then don't answer them. I really don't care.

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https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/de...n/us/townhouse

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/row%20house

Both definitions have the phrase "shared walls". Both have the units connected with each other with no gap between units.
Well, see that's a problem. That's really not an accurate definition of a row house. These are row houses in San Francisco. No one disputes as far as I know that they are row houses, yet they don't have shared walls




I read your original OP. I didn't answer as it seems you didn't like what North beach person answered and I was replying to that. No worries, have a nice day!
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Old 02-09-2018, 02:26 PM
 
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town house have common walls, common roofs and common areas. only the inside of your unit is yours.


row house, only the common wall is shared. the land it is built on, the front yard, back yard, space above it is yours. so you can demolish your row house and build another in its place.


for townhouse, you can not do that
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Old 02-09-2018, 03:39 PM
 
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town house have common walls, common roofs and common areas. only the inside of your unit is yours.


row house, only the common wall is shared. the land it is built on, the front yard, back yard, space above it is yours. so you can demolish your row house and build another in its place.


for townhouse, you can not do that
Thank you. That makes a lot of sense. Perhaps that's why realtor sites typically will list a row house as a single family home while townhouses are listed under their own category. Also I noticed a row house typically does not have an HOA while townhouses always do.
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Old 02-09-2018, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Thank you. That makes a lot of sense. Perhaps that's why realtor sites typically will list a row house as a single family home while townhouses are listed under their own category. Also I noticed a row house typically does not have an HOA while townhouses always do.
That depends, however. In some areas there are still row houses where the lot is not owned outright (i.e. fee simple), but is subject to ground rent. In that case, the land is not the homeowners per se.
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Old 02-09-2018, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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...where the lot is not owned outright (i.e. fee simple).

Uh, no. That is "fee simple". You own the land.
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