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Old 08-10-2019, 06:42 PM
 
Location: plano
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A window in a first floor bedroom had moisture between the two panes when we bought 9 years ago. We installed hard wood floor in that bedroom and now it is bowed in an area directly under the same window panes replaced at purchase. The bowed area is about 5 ft by 2 ft right against the wall under the window. The same pane again has moisture between the two panes. Is this the likely source of water causing the wood floor to bow?

I had a new roof installed a year ago and had the roofer look into it and he was confident it was either the window leaking or from a weep hole. We lowered the level of mulch to well below the weep hole but I am not confident it was the source of the moisture since the flogging and condensation between the two panes has developed recently making me think the window leak is the source.

Does it seem to you experts that it likely is the window? If so is this something I can patch as a DIY project or do I need a pro, since i will need to get those panes replaced again would you do that before or after the leak is fixed or at the same time?

Thanks for any advice you can give and any thing I have left out needed please ask. Thanks
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Old 08-10-2019, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Rochester, WA
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They are likely both symptoms of an issue with that window installation, one is not the cause of the other.
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Old 08-10-2019, 07:30 PM
 
Location: plano
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What trade would you call to assess and fix it? A specialist in window installations? Is this a DIY I can fix potentially or unlikely in your experience?

House is 20 years old and I have owned it for 10 years now. The floor in that bedroom was carpeted when I bought the home and no sign of a leak on the carpet was seen. I would estimate the amount of water to have done the damage I have as less than a quart to a gallon over 10 years so it is a very slow leak I believe.

Thanks for your help
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:47 AM
 
Location: on the wind
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They are likely both symptoms of an issue with that window installation, one is not the cause of the other.
Agree, probably the window. Maybe not the glass unit but the frame around it. When they replaced that window before did anyone notice the condition of the sash/sill? Is the siding wood? If the wood framing holding the window is rotten or badly caulked it could be allowing moisture to seep inside the wall. The damp wall could warp the flooring. If the glass unit's seal is bad moisture from the damp frame could help create the condensation that is forming between the glass panes (if they are double paned and sealed). Does that window get exposed to driven rain? Does water collect and just sit on the sill instead of flow off of it? The more it sits the more likely the wood will rot.

A window replacement business could replace the glass, but when the glass unit is removed they might find wood rot...a carpenter may need to rebuild the sills before the glass goes back in.

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Old 08-11-2019, 06:13 AM
 
Location: plano
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Thank you both for your advice.

I am in Dallas metro, we get a lot of high wind driven rain. The double paned windows faces east and is sealed. The exterior of the home is brick and the window unit is surrounded by architectural concert. The inside wall below the window, directly above the floor is not damp, it feels and looks dry as a bone. The frame of the window unit is metal i assume its aluminum. The home was built in 1999. The windows where the glass has moisture in it now and when I had the home inspected before buying it is one vertical section of four in thus window unit. Only under this one section of the four parts of the lage window unit is where the wood is buckled. I did not own the home when the glass was replaced so did not observe the condition of the material around the glass pane unit then.

I think the steps to fix this situation is to first find and fix the leak source and any damage done to the wall etc. Then to replace the floor section that is damaged as well as replace the window panes with moisture between the two panes of glass? Who would you have find the leak source? A carpenter?
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Old 08-11-2019, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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The window unit is the leak. As previously mentioned, one has nothing to do with the other.

Is the window jamb wood or aluminum? When the "replacement" was done, was it the whole window, just the sashes, or just the glazing?

I'm betting on a flashing omittance, or improper installation. Is the window trimmed out on the interior (casing, stool, apron)- wood jamb window, or is it just drywall wrapped?- aluminum frame. If you have stool and apron, you can remove the apron and see under the sill- that might narrow down the leak source.

Some pics would help- interior and exterior.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:00 PM
 
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Just rip out the floor right now and check for leaking pipes or drainage issues outside
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:33 PM
 
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If you want to try some DIY, cut open the interior drywall below the window. Take out any insulation and look for signs of past or present moisture in the wall cavity. Spray a hose around the outside of the window and look for leaks. If the exterior is EIFS (stucco), there is a long, ugly history of moisture problems.

It's unlikely that condensation between glass panes would be enough to cause your floor problem. There's probably some other more substantial leakage somewhere.
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Old 08-11-2019, 03:49 PM
 
Location: plano
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The window unit is the leak. As previously mentioned, one has nothing to do with the other.

Is the window jamb wood or aluminum? When the "replacement" was done, was it the whole window, just the sashes, or just the glazing?

I'm betting on a flashing omittance, or improper installation. Is the window trimmed out on the interior (casing, stool, apron)- wood jamb window, or is it just drywall wrapped?- aluminum frame. If you have stool and apron, you can remove the apron and see under the sill- that might narrow down the leak source.

Some pics would help- interior and exterior.
I was not the owner nor around when the replacement was done. I took some pictures of the area both inside and outside and have them on my phone and emailed them to myself as an attachment. How do I insert them here?

The exterior is not EFIS it is a brick house with architectural concrete around the windows.
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Old 07-19-2020, 09:34 AM
 
Location: plano
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Got a window guy who feels confident the leak is from the window because my sprinkler has eroded the gout to failure letting the water in. I will update after he gets the special order window in and replaces it to let you know if this seems to solve the problem.
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