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Old 02-05-2020, 08:14 AM
 
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no appliances...just outlets for tv, lamps, phone charger maybe

am finishing my basement and I already have 2 outlets (conduit attached to poured wall)
want to remove these and use this breaker...

I have room in panel for another breaker if necessary
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Old 02-05-2020, 08:28 AM
 
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Normally a rule of thumb is about 10 but it definitely helps to identify the exact use age in case one of the items will be using significantly more power.
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Old 02-05-2020, 08:36 AM
 
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Outlets also should be conveniently located, typically every 12 ft along a wall with at least 1 on each wall.
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Old 02-05-2020, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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The question-
Theoretically the number is infinite.

For a more practical definition-
NEC 210–52 Generally, receptacle outlets in habitable rooms shall be installed so that no point along the floor line (measured horizontally) in any wall space is more than 6 feet from an outlet in that space. An outlet shall be installed in each wall space 2 feet or more in width.

However, if you plan to a dedicated "entertainment wall"- tv, cable, dish, av receiver, etc., I'd use a dedicated circuit for that.

And, overhead lighting should be on a separate circuit.
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Old 02-05-2020, 09:17 AM
 
Location: CA
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NEC 210–52 Generally, receptacle outlets in habitable rooms shall be installed so that no point along the floor line (measured horizontally) in any wall space is more than 6 feet from an outlet in that space. An outlet shall be installed in each wall space 2 feet or more in width.

However, if you plan to a dedicated "entertainment wall"- tv, cable, dish, av receiver, etc., I'd use a dedicated circuit for that.

And, overhead lighting should be on a separate circuit.
Agree with K'ledgeBldr here. Your local code is likely to limit the number of outlets. A common rule of thumb for residential (bedroom, etc.) is 12. If you are running new lines I would highly recommend running two circuits. I used to do this as standard with new houses, so every room had plugs from two different circuits and a separate circuit for lights.
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Old 02-05-2020, 09:36 AM
 
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all the recessed lighting is on one separate circuit
I will have a flat screen, stereo on the outlet circuit...guitar amps too (gulp)
I plan on parallel wiring one wall, parallel wire another, and run these 2 loads into a junction box with the hot wire from the panel (2 loads into one hot)

if for some reason I start tripping the breaker, I will add a breaker and run the hot wire to the junction box, and separate the (2 loads one hot each) if that makes sense

the breakers themselves are gfci so I don't need a gfci outlet
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Old 02-05-2020, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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all the recessed lighting is on one separate circuit
I will have a flat screen, stereo on the outlet circuit...guitar amps too (gulp)
I plan on parallel wiring one wall, parallel wire another, and run these 2 loads into a junction box with the hot wire from the panel (2 loads into one hot)

if for some reason I start tripping the breaker, I will add a breaker and run the hot wire to the junction box, and separate the (2 loads one hot each) if that makes sense

the breakers themselves are gfci so I don't need a gfci outlet



?????
Me thinks you should call an electrician!
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Old 02-05-2020, 06:12 PM
 
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The NEC says if the load is unknown you use 1.5 A per receptacle. That translates to 10. However it is recommended to only load it at 80%, so I say eight. Don't forget in a basement they must be GFCI protected so make sure the first is a GFCI, sub-feeding the rest.

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Old 02-06-2020, 04:33 AM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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Don't forget in a basement they must be GFCI protected so make sure the first is a GFCI, sub-feeding the rest.


That should read- "don't forget in an UNFINISHED basement..."

Since we're talking about a finished basement the only place(s) that GFCI would be needed is any unfinished area where mechanicals are, and a bathroom.

And depending on your AHJ and the approved NEC, it is possible that you may need AFCI's. Just so you know- those things are a major PITA!
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Old 02-06-2020, 05:52 AM
 
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The NEC says if the load is unknown you use 1.5 A per receptacle. That translates to 10. However it is recommended to only load it at 80%, so I say eight. Don't forget in a basement they must be GFCI protected so make sure the first is a GFCI, sub-feeding the rest.
Agreed, that is exactly what I recommended in a previous post for light usage only, lamps and chargers to install about 10 outlets.

KBldr is also correct regarding finished vs unfinished basements, the code does differentiate between the two.
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