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Old 06-24-2020, 08:23 PM
 
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Well hopefully we all benefit from history and the lessons learned from tragedies and how to better protect people with useful changes. It wasn’t that long ago that new cars were manufactured without seat belts, air bags and other safety features, so fortunately we learn and changes are made so that we are able to save lives.

And we see accidents all the time where people are thrown from their cars and killed when maybe using that seat belt would have saved them. . . .


No horse in this race, my point is just people are going to do what they want regardless what you tell them. . .
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Old 06-25-2020, 05:05 AM
 
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And we see accidents all the time where people are thrown from their cars and killed when maybe using that seat belt would have saved them. . . .


No horse in this race, my point is just people are going to do what they want regardless what you tell them. . .
Agreed ! This is true and we can all make decisions based on our own comfort level and rationale to decipher statistical information that has been gathered regarding safety and what works best in our particular case.
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Old 06-25-2020, 05:25 AM
 
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I live alone and I DO have double locks. They are all keyed to use the same key, which greatly simplifies things. Mine won't lock just by shutting the door behind you- you have to use a key to lock it. At every door I have a key placed where I could find it in the dark. I've also got them on the bedroom nightstands.

As the previous poster noted, you have to assess the risks and do what makes sense for you.
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Old 06-25-2020, 06:19 AM
 
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Well hopefully we all benefit from history and the lessons learned from tragedies and how to better protect people with useful changes. It wasn’t that long ago that new cars were manufactured without seat belts, air bags and other safety features, so fortunately we learn and changes are made so that we are able to save lives.
Yes... I still own/occasionally drive cars not equipped with seat belts although all my vehicles from the 1960's on have them.

My oldest is 1905 and predates steering wheel... it has a tiller... 115 years old but still 100% legal/registered... oil lamps and all.

The bright spot about locks is they are inexpensive and easy to change out 99% of the time... plus they are almost always secondary 100% of the time so using is optional.

One of my neighbors struggled with a parent with alzheimers and double cylinder locks keeps the parent from wandering and she has Doctor note after her father was found walking on a nearby freeway.
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Old 06-25-2020, 08:10 AM
 
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Double-keyed deadbolts are against code in my area. We still had them but had to change them when we sold.

An advantage to having a double-keyed deadbolt is that you can lock someone in so they can't get out.
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One of my neighbors struggled with a parent with alzheimers and double cylinder locks keeps the parent from wandering and she has Doctor note after her father was found walking on a nearby freeway.
Yep.
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Old 06-25-2020, 11:18 AM
 
Location: equator
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Yeah, now the op is just being a jack***.
I'm sorry. I quoted that post accidentally. I meant the whole thread in general was entertaining to me, the heated opinions and all. Certainly I don't find home invasion funny.

I noticed here in Europe, even the fanciest homes have decorative bars on the first floor windows, so they take their security seriously. I guess the double keyed locks are part of that.

So they are illegal in some places but not others. Now I know!

I had just never seen it in the US, despite living in a dozen states.
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Old 06-29-2020, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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This is a common security feature. It keeps someone from opening the door by breaking a window and then just unlocking the door. We had this in prior homes. You either get in the habit of leaving the key in the inside lock when you are home, or you hang a spare key next tot he door (or both). We never had any problem with it and we tend to be absent minded/forgetful.

Keep in mind this practice goes back 100 or more years. The old inset lockests had a key hole on each side of the door. Some had a hand operated lock, some did not. In a fire, the door is not always the practical escape route anyway. toss a chair through the window rather than fumble around with a door latch of any kind.
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Old 06-29-2020, 08:04 AM
 
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Keep in mind this practice goes back 100 or more years. The old inset lockests had a key hole on each side of the door. Some had a hand operated lock, some did not. In a fire, the door is not always the practical escape route anyway. toss a chair through the window rather than fumble around with a door latch of any kind.

I think the true key to fire safety is fire prevention and fire warning so that it's unlikely you have to escape a fire in the first place, and if you do then you have time to calmly exit and not rushing out a door or window with flames licking at your arse.
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Old 06-29-2020, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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This is a common security feature. It keeps someone from opening the door by breaking a window and then just unlocking the door. We had this in prior homes. You either get in the habit of leaving the key in the inside lock when you are home, or you hang a spare key next tot he door (or both). We never had any problem with it and we tend to be absent minded/forgetful.

Keep in mind this practice goes back 100 or more years. The old inset lockests had a key hole on each side of the door. Some had a hand operated lock, some did not. In a fire, the door is not always the practical escape route anyway. toss a chair through the window rather than fumble around with a door latch of any kind.
Of course, break out a window if necessary to escape, but, better to go out the door and close, but don't lock, it. A broken out window or a door left open increase draft to the fire. And once you break out the window, you can't close that opening.
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