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Old 10-21-2020, 10:32 PM
 
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My guess is that in the past people would compensate by cranking the heat to the max which is a scalding risk for children.
A very easy way to eliminate that danger...

Add a premixing valve system right on top of the heater
Set the heater to 140 degrees.
The pre-mixer will reduce the water temp to 120 degrees by adding cold water.

The result, no scalding, and more hot water available.

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Old 10-22-2020, 10:18 AM
 
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The result, no scalding, and more hot water available.[/url]
I forgot to mention...
We were a family of 7 total (years ago) and never ran out of bathwater (showers for all 7 of us) during morning rituals...
This was with a 40-gallon electric water heater.
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Old 10-22-2020, 10:28 AM
 
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A very easy way to eliminate that danger...

Add a premixing valve system right on top of the heater
Set the heater to 140 degrees.
The pre-mixer will reduce the water temp to 120 degrees by adding cold water.

The result, no scalding, and more hot water available.
I had a combined hydronic heating/hot water system for several years. It had two persistent problems: first, the vent valve that purged air from the heating loop tended to need replacement every other season; listening to the heating pipes burble and cluck at the start of a heating season told me I had to do it again.

Second... since the water-chamber heating had to be kept quite high, a mixing/tempering valve was essential to avoid serious scalding issues.

They are crap. All of them. I had to have the valve replaced three times (and I suspect my ex has had it replaced at least twice more since) and it never maintained a consistent mix temp. At least once I was able to use a repair kit, replacing just the screw-in guts, but twice the whole body was faulty and had to be unsoldered/resoldered back into place.

I would be very leery of having or modifying a home hot water system so that it depends on a mixing valve. Better to increase the heater size and set the temp at a reasonable level. Or use anti-scald faucets in the bathrooms, which do seem to work consistently and can be much more easily adjusted.

("Had to have replaced" - among other things, the valve was in a tangle of copper beyond my confidence in my sweating skills, especially given the potential disaster of a basement water leak.)
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