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Old 10-04-2021, 07:41 AM
 
Location: In a happy place
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Wages get paid to the workers through the subcontractor.
The contractor still is paying them. Where do you think the subcontractor gets the money to pay the workers?

 
Old 10-04-2021, 10:45 AM
 
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Plus I know there is insurance and other miscellaneous costs....but $10,000 pure profit on 1 single job in 1 day??????


This seems disgustingly absurd and should be illegal don’t you think?



Westcoast seems to have no answer.. How much profit can a person make in a day in westcoast world before stepping over the line to become gouging???
 
Old 10-04-2021, 04:50 PM
 
Location: North
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We had a similar experience repairing some storm damage(not the roof). The price quoted to the insurance was very high. I couldn't understand how they got to it. I priced all the components and my total, for a DIY, was less than half what they were quoting. Take into account that the prices I got are higher that the prices a specialized contractor buying in bulk gets, so we felt taken advantage of.

So we were convinced they were charging those prices just because insurance was paying. The original whole install was $19K 4 years ago and the parts damaged were only a small part of it, so again why were they charging over 50% of the original price when they were only replacing like a 20% of the system and prices have been dropping on that industry.

It was a $6K profit on a $10K job that would take them less than a day to fix. To add insult to injury, the company insisted on charging us $500 just to come to our house and doing an assessment (30 minutes), that we had to pay regardless because they made us sign a contract before coming and the insurance company felt it was unjustified that the assessment fee wouldn't be deducted if they got the job so they refused to pay for it.
 
Old 10-05-2021, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Central Virginia
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Late to the thread so I don't know if OP has mentioned it.

How many squares does your roof measure? Ours is just 9 squares and we paid $5k to have it replaced in October 2019.
 
Old 10-05-2021, 10:25 PM
 
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The contractor still is paying them. Where do you think the subcontractor gets the money to pay the workers?
It’s not the responsibility of the contractor to cover the subcontractors’ workers health insurance. It’s the subcontractors. The subcontractor probably gets the cheapest crappy company with low limits
 
Old 10-05-2021, 10:28 PM
 
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Westcoast seems to have no answer.. How much profit can a person make in a day in westcoast world before stepping over the line to become gouging???
You tell me. You’re the one obsessed with profit for contractors. I’m saying $12,000 to $15,000 net profit after taxes in one day is making a KILLING. On two roofs!!!
 
Old 10-05-2021, 10:30 PM
 
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We had a similar experience repairing some storm damage(not the roof). The price quoted to the insurance was very high. I couldn't understand how they got to it. I priced all the components and my total, for a DIY, was less than half what they were quoting. Take into account that the prices I got are higher that the prices a specialized contractor buying in bulk gets, so we felt taken advantage of.

So we were convinced they were charging those prices just because insurance was paying. The original whole install was $19K 4 years ago and the parts damaged were only a small part of it, so again why were they charging over 50% of the original price when they were only replacing like a 20% of the system and prices have been dropping on that industry.

It was a $6K profit on a $10K job that would take them less than a day to fix. To add insult to injury, the company insisted on charging us $500 just to come to our house and doing an assessment (30 minutes), that we had to pay regardless because they made us sign a contract before coming and the insurance company felt it was unjustified that the assessment fee wouldn't be deducted if they got the job so they refused to pay for it.
Yep yep. All a racket. But these contractors here don’t want the scam revealed. The goose is cooked
 
Old 10-05-2021, 10:31 PM
 
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Late to the thread so I don't know if OP has mentioned it.

How many squares does your roof measure? Ours is just 9 squares and we paid $5k to have it replaced in October 2019.
House is 2600 sq ft. Not huge. One large two sided slope and one two medium side slope over the garage, with one angle above one window. Nothing complicated.
 
Old 10-05-2021, 10:33 PM
 
Location: PNW
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I think it is the worker's comp that is expensive. Of course, you have to know that not all companies are doing the right thing. So, you have to find the most reputable company you can.

They have you over a barrel; there is a going rate and you are either going to pay it or do it yourself.

What about plumbers? Actually any contractor nowadays wants at least $1,000 to $2,000 a day to work at your house. This is part of why housing prices are climbing (one of many reasons not the least of which is interest rates).

With inflation the way it is if you wait 5 years the price of the roof will be double (or maybe in 5 months)...
 
Old 10-06-2021, 07:55 AM
 
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It’s not the responsibility of the contractor to cover the subcontractors’ workers health insurance. It’s the subcontractors. The subcontractor probably gets the cheapest crappy company with low limits
Awesome my favorite troll is back telling more lies. What you call workers health insurance is actually paid directly to the state and they pick the rate the contractor pays. Don't let reality stop your beyond silly posts though. They make me laugh.
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