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Old 03-25-2022, 08:23 PM
 
Location: 53179
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In terms of door security, the intruders I worry most about around here are bears. Bears don't carry wallets...but IDing one is pretty straightforward!

The Scenario: 12am at the end of a very warm summer day. Left the porch slider open and dozed off on the couch. A commotion woke me up. Next thing I know, face to face with a black bear momma and 2 cubs with nothing but the shredded remains of the screen between us.
Omg.. What happened??!!
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Old 03-25-2022, 09:45 PM
 
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Default Storm door heat

I can’t speak to trapping humidity, but I once had a black painted door with an all glass storm door in north Texas. Had a cheap door wreath and the air between got so hot it melted the glue on the wreath & I had pieces falling off. I do like a storm door, both for security & ventilation, but it can protect your nice wood door from heat & hail
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Old 03-26-2022, 06:44 AM
 
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I can’t speak to trapping humidity, but I once had a black painted door with an all glass storm door in north Texas. Had a cheap door wreath and the air between got so hot it melted the glue on the wreath & I had pieces falling off. I do like a storm door, both for security & ventilation, but it can protect your nice wood door from heat & hail
I think that your example proves otherwise. Rather than protecting the door from heat, the glass storm door "trapped and magnified" the heat which caused the glue on the wreath to melt.

We've had the same thing happen to a wreath on our front door. Now I make sure to leave the top glass down slightly so that the super heated air can escape. Our front door faces east so it gets the direct sunlight in the morning hours from daybreak to about 10 AM. It would be even worse if we didn't have an overhang that blocks the direct sunlight after about 10 AM.
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Old 03-26-2022, 03:29 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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Omg.. What happened??!!
Everyone stared at each other for a few seconds. The cubs bolted across the deck, squeezed themselves through gaps in the deck railing, tumbled onto the grass below, and headed for the treeline. Mom reared up on her hind legs and popped her jaw, but after thinking things over for a moment, thankfully followed the cubs. Unfortunately, she couldn't squeeze between the same deck railings and took a couple along with her. I suspect every heart involved kept pounding for a while. I know I wasn't remotely sleepy any longer.
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Old 03-27-2022, 05:19 AM
 
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I think that your example proves otherwise. Rather than protecting the door from heat, the glass storm door "trapped and magnified" the heat which caused the glue on the wreath to melt.

We've had the same thing happen to a wreath on our front door. Now I make sure to leave the top glass down slightly so that the super heated air can escape. Our front door faces east so it gets the direct sunlight in the morning hours from daybreak to about 10 AM. It would be even worse if we didn't have an overhang that blocks the direct sunlight after about 10 AM.
This happened to me when I had a full top to bottom glass storm door installed. My front door is black as well. After the sun went down, I could hear a lot of popping with the door "cooling off". I ended up getting the storm door tinted and that significantly reduced the noises. I did not use one of those off the shelf do-it-yourself kits but hired a business to come install. It did help significantly, but I am pondering painting my door a light neutral color to further reduce heat.
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Old 03-28-2022, 05:12 AM
 
Location: U.S.
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I can’t speak to trapping humidity, but I once had a black painted door with an all glass storm door in north Texas. Had a cheap door wreath and the air between got so hot it melted the glue on the wreath & I had pieces falling off. I do like a storm door, both for security & ventilation, but it can protect your nice wood door from heat & hail
This happened to us once! Years ago, fake christmas wreath - it actually curled the ends of the fake needles. Our house at the time faced straight south and even in the cold months it was crazy how much heat gets trapped in between the two doors!
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Old 03-28-2022, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Look for a storm door by Fox Aluminum Products. They are welded instead of screwed together (makes a huge difference in longevity). Good quality all around. Hard to find them though. They have a limited number of distributors.
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Old 04-04-2022, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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I think they spoil the look of a front door, but we have a screen door for two reasons...to keep the dog from escaping and to get a breeze on nice days.

We do not have inclement weather here.
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Old 04-04-2022, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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I think they spoil the look of a front door, but we have a screen door for two reasons...to keep the dog from escaping and to get a breeze on nice days.

We do not have inclement weather here.
I would like a screen door for my back patio - not the front door though.
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Old 04-04-2022, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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In addition to what's already been mentioned there's an esthetic reason. a storm door makes most houses look "finished".
They are very, very uncommon around here in NE Texas. Houses look "finished" to me without them.
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