
11-18-2022, 10:53 AM
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I have black granite in my kitchen and love it. I put hot pans on it all the time. The only thing I clean it with is dishwashing soap and it looks good.
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11-19-2022, 06:12 PM
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Location: Sandy Eggo's North County
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Looking for solutions, 6 months later?
Live with it, or tear it out with something else.
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11-20-2022, 12:35 AM
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Location: The CLT area
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Originally Posted by kitty61
It's not a stain, it is a burn. Permanent damage.
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Originally Posted by Roselvr
I think so too
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Appreciate your replies. If that were the case, why does the peroxide/baking soda treatment work for 4-5 days?
I'm not saying that you're wrong, but I am puzzled (not saying that you'd have the answer  - just wondering aloud...)
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Originally Posted by Mayvenne
Hmm well I guess if it's a burn and permanent damage, then trying the sealant again wouldn't hurt it further?
I guess it really might pay to have an expert come out and see.
In the meantime- isn't there a pretty bowl or vase you can place there ?
Said in jest but only partially.
wink wink
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That might be the next option, unfortunately...
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Originally Posted by dijkstra
Try hydrogen peroxide. You might also try non-abrasive comet or Bon Ami or bar keepers friend. Those cleaners contain ingredients that break down various deposits. Do you homework first though and make sure it is ok to use those on granite. If that doesn't work, you have most likely more or less cooked whatever was in the Windex and it make have created a sort of crystalline ring in the porous surface of the granite. The only resolution may be buffing and polishing the granite to remove the ring.
Even though you will read that it is okay to place hot pans on granite, do not ever do so. Whatever may be on the granite such as spills or residue from where you were preparing food or even cleaning may burn and create marks and rings. Its best to always place something such as a privet on the granite and then place the hot pan on it.
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Appreciate the reply...
The peroxide treatment works for 4-5 days, and then the ring reappears.
I did use Maguires Cleaner Wax, with no improvement.
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11-21-2022, 01:14 AM
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Location: Round Rock, Texas
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I have black pearl granite inside the house and absolute black outdoors. Black is my fav but it tends to etch. Personally I’d just get a pro to fix it up. There are lots of folks out there that can help you and I don’t think it’s be terribly expensive. Good luck
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11-21-2022, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by harry chickpea
Uhhh, I think you meant trivet. If you want privet (an invasive plant in Alabama) I can provide you with a lifetime supply.
My real question is "WHY granite, except for following the herd instincts of the wealthy?" I grew up around granite. I tore up my knees falling off a bike onto a crushed granite street. Granite makes great gravestones and rip-rap that will last forever, but using it for a countertop means extra care to prevent problems like the one in this thread, broken china and glasses, and regular warnings to kids and guests that can be a source of discord. The function of a kitchen is cooking and making food. If you want a wow factor, why not put in a stained glass window or some decoration that won't interfere with NORMAL counter uses?
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Yes.....trivet. Typo or brain fart.....most likely the latter.
The reason I have granite is because I will never have to replace it and it also adds value to my home if I decide to sell. Having standard counter tops in a higher end home is a negative when selling because potential buyers immediately think......well it is going to cost us probably 5 to 7 grand to replace these counter tops.
It is also pretty much no maintenance if you take care of them properly. If you use the cleaner/sealer for granite tops when you clean them, you are all set. No other maintenance required, it is done with your normal cleaning. I never place hot pans on mine so I don't have to worry about issues like the OP has with rings or the like. You can't place hot pans on other counter top surfaces such as formica since it will burn and bubble it so it just carries over to never doing it on granite either for me. Glasses and china break if they are dropped on other counter tops although there is obviously a slight amount of forgiveness vs. granite but not much. I don't have to warn kids because they aren't generally handling hot pans. Spills are not a problem with granite. Other surfaces such as some marble can stain and I would never have anything that will stain so I am with you on that.
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11-21-2022, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dijkstra
Yes.....trivet. Typo or brain fart.....most likely the latter.
The reason I have granite is because I will never have to replace it and it also adds value to my home if I decide to sell. Having standard counter tops in a higher end home is a negative when selling because potential buyers immediately think......well it is going to cost us probably 5 to 7 grand to replace these counter tops.
It is also pretty much no maintenance if you take care of them properly. If you use the cleaner/sealer for granite tops when you clean them, you are all set. No other maintenance required, it is done with your normal cleaning. I never place hot pans on mine so I don't have to worry about issues like the OP has with rings or the like. You can't place hot pans on other counter top surfaces such as formica since it will burn and bubble it so it just carries over to never doing it on granite either for me. Glasses and china break if they are dropped on other counter tops although there is obviously a slight amount of forgiveness vs. granite but not much. I don't have to warn kids because they aren't generally handling hot pans. Spills are not a problem with granite. Other surfaces such as some marble can stain and I would never have anything that will stain so I am with you on that.
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You give good counterpoints.
Marble is a top I would have even more problems accepting. Formica does look cheaper and can bubble under extreme conditions - BTDT.
What I MIGHT do if I had a kitchen with a high-end counter is cover it with either a plexiglass or heavy glass used to cover desks. Why? So I could sell the house at a premium with a completely unblemished countertop.
I don't have a high-end house, reselling isn't an issue, I enjoy cooking, and I make mistakes... and try as I might, I drop things. If I ruin my formica countertop, I wander into Home Despot, say "I want that, delivered." I walk out, start swearing at sink cutouts and clips, remove the old and wait for the new, so I can get back to cooking.
To put it more crudely, the failings and presuppositions and fetishes of those who want to use my stuff after I no longer want it, are not my concern.
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11-24-2022, 02:13 PM
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We redid our kitchen last year and I went with high end Cambria quartz. I love it. Very easy to care for... BUT... the installers did make a couple points abundantly clear - NEVER set a hot pan on it, and use only mild non-abrasive cleansers. Now that said, I put some cheaper quartz in my last kitchen and put hot pans on it all the time because I didn't know better, and nothing bad ever happened.
I guess one needs to be even more careful with granite. Hope you can repair it, OP.
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11-24-2022, 03:57 PM
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Location: on the wind
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Originally Posted by harry chickpea
You give good counterpoints.
Marble is a top I would have even more problems accepting. Formica does look cheaper and can bubble under extreme conditions - BTDT.
What I MIGHT do if I had a kitchen with a high-end counter is cover it with either a plexiglass or heavy glass used to cover desks. Why? So I could sell the house at a premium with a completely unblemished countertop.
I don't have a high-end house, reselling isn't an issue, I enjoy cooking, and I make mistakes... and try as I might, I drop things. If I ruin my formica countertop, I wander into Home Despot, say "I want that, delivered." I walk out, start swearing at sink cutouts and clips, remove the old and wait for the new, so I can get back to cooking.
To put it more crudely, the failings and presuppositions and fetishes of those who want to use my stuff after I no longer want it, are not my concern.
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Have to agree with much of this. IMHO, kitchen counters are working utilitarian surfaces...they're going to be used multiple times a day, day in, day out, year after year after year. If I have to worry so much about a wear surface I need to cover it with something else, spend extra money/time fussing over it, or be reluctant to use the kitchen for its intended purpose, it isn't worth having. Still, hot pots belong on the stove, not the counter. I care very little about resale value. The house is where I live, not a magazine stage. If something has incurred normal wear and tear damage by the time I want to sell it, I'll decide what to do then. I may not do anything and let a buyer lose their own mind over it. I'd much rather replace a Formica or solid surface top for less $ slightly more often than agonize over some fancy stone every moment.
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