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Old 11-28-2009, 06:03 PM
 
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Reality is that with all of the tax write offs the well to do in this country pay less of a % of tax than the ordinary working to middle class in America. Maybe thats why alot of them build 10000+ sf homes and then take the tax write off. America would be better off with a progressive flat tax and ZERO deductions. However, there are too many special interest groups....church, mortgage industry, etc.
Could you afford to pay the entire cost of goods and services???? A loaf of bread could be $20/$$25. Think about it.

Out system is designed to keep the money moving.

I could not afford it!!!
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Could you afford to pay the entire cost of goods and services???? A loaf of bread could be $20/$$25. Think about it.

Out system is designed to keep the money moving.

I could not afford it!!!
A flat tax wouldn't = $20 bread...it would equate to a lot of accountants looking for work.
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Old 11-29-2009, 01:09 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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What I said is that the wealthy should not be penalized for being wealthy - they should be able to take a mortgage deduction just like the rest of us. A I think most people try to take whatever legal deduction they can on their taxes - why should the rich be any different?
I completely agree.
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Old 11-29-2009, 07:29 AM
 
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I completely agree.
If they are wealthy, would they have a mortgage?
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Old 11-29-2009, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Sure, if there's a better, more productive use of the money they would use in paying cash, if they can invest that money to make more than they're paying in interest on the mortgage. That's one reason they're wealthy.
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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A flat tax wouldn't = $20 bread...it would equate to a lot of accountants looking for work.
A flat tax would also enable everyone to be a little more aware of what's going on in DC, rather than having what we have now with a group of tax payers and a group of non-payers. If people could see the consequences of what lawmakers pass on their tax bill the next spring maybe we wouldn't get so much nonsense pushed through.

But that's enough OT ranting from me for now. Time to figure out how much materials I'll need to wrap the hot water heater and pipes to save a bit on natural gas use next month.
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Old 11-29-2009, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Prospect, KY
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If they are wealthy, would they have a mortgage?
Absolutely - we have wealthy friends who maintain a small mortgage for tax-write-off purposes. The wealthy often become wealthy because they are frugal - not all wealthy people live in mansions...one of the reasons they are wealthy is because they try to save money, do with less and take whatever tax breaks they can legally take.
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Absolutely - we have wealthy friends who maintain a small mortgage for tax-write-off purposes. The wealthy often become wealthy because they are frugal - not all wealthy people live in mansions...one of the reasons they are wealthy is because they try to save money, do with less and take whatever tax breaks they can legally take.
Some people call them "tax breaks" some people call them "loopholes". A lot of wealthy people thought it was ok to hide their money in Swiss bank accounts and they are paying for it now. Subsidies for the wealthy need to end.

Mike
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:05 AM
 
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Absolutely - we have wealthy friends who maintain a small mortgage for tax-write-off purposes. The wealthy often become wealthy because they are frugal - not all wealthy people live in mansions...one of the reasons they are wealthy is because they try to save money, do with less and take whatever tax breaks they can legally take.
What are we calling wealthy???
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Old 11-29-2009, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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You realize the tax laws are the same for everybody... you can write off donations, mortgage interest, property taxes, capital losses and a whole bunch of other things too if you want. Doesn't matter if you're wealthy or not.
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