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Old 11-21-2010, 07:43 PM
 
Location: The Greater Houston Metro Area
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We didn't even make it. Other than SEVEN in California, the other three are Birmingham, Alabama; Pittsburg, PA.; and Phoenix, Arizona.

After all of the hype about Houston's air, even Phoenix beat us out for dirtiest.

I thought I remember a lot of Phoenix people ragging on about the air quality here.

America's Dirtiest Cities - Forbes.com
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Old 11-22-2010, 03:34 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Why is Phoenix so dirty? It has practically no heavy industry. Maybe the hot dry weather makes more 'ozone days'.
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Old 11-22-2010, 05:33 AM
 
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Was our measuring equipment working. In Dallas for years, when it was time to turn in the numbers their equipment was always broken, thus they did not get counted. The government of the Great State of Texas has many ways to cook the books. Just like subtracting the of error rate from the total in the water pollution count. Numbers looked great.

Does your water glow in the dark?
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Old 11-22-2010, 05:34 AM
 
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Phoenix is kind of in a basin, just like LA.
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Old 11-22-2010, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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In Phoenix, the desert sand gets caught in the basin like a big dust cloud.
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Old 11-22-2010, 08:55 PM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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We didn't even make it. Other than SEVEN in California, the other three are Birmingham, Alabama; Pittsburg, PA.; and Phoenix, Arizona.
Tell that to Al Gore and the Hollywood ilk, who had no problem using a 1-2 year fluke in the data to exaggerate, lie, and bash the city for political gain a decade ago. The repercussions exist to this day in that some people still think Houston is the air pollution capital of the universe.

Anyway, nice find.
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Old 11-22-2010, 09:18 PM
 
Location: The Greater Houston Metro Area
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Tell that to Al Gore and the Hollywood ilk, who had no problem using a 1-2 year fluke in the data to exaggerate, lie, and bash the city for political gain a decade ago. The repercussions exist to this day in that some people still think Houston is the air pollution capital of the universe.

Anyway, nice find.
Yeah, well. Even though we aren't on it and that's good - I never trust any of these lists. They recently had one of the growing cities and Houston wasn't on it. Go figure.
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Old 11-22-2010, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Kennesaw, GA
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Default Can you say, Mexico?

Those winds blow in from across the border ... Phoenix and the southwest deserts have horrible visibility these days. I'm sure the particulates are quite high thanks to all that industry that literally 'went south' and the forest fires south of the border.
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:18 AM
 
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I can see Birmingham because of all the factories. They need to clean up. I wonder where does Houston fit in? LOL!
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Old 11-23-2010, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Why is Phoenix so dirty? It has practically no heavy industry. Maybe the hot dry weather makes more 'ozone days'.
Contrary to belief, people think Houston's air quality is bad because of cars but its not. Houston's topography actually helps it, the bad air disperses and becomes acid rain in Oklahoma later on traveling north. The bad air quality in Houston is mostly caused by Houston refineries and especially the area near Houston ship channel, with the channel actually claiming 36% of Houston's bad air conditions.

Houston's industries are what give it a hard time, otherwise being a flat topography with no barriers for bad air to remain in place, it has the edge over Phoenix and the likes (cities with mountains and high car dependency).

The difference with Phoenix & Los Angeles is that they aren't flat cities, the mountains and valleys keep the air within the area, kind of like a barrier blocking the bad air from exiting the area at all.

With Phoenix it is caused mostly by automobile dependency, it has to be the most auto dependent city in the country right now by percentages. By sheer numbers Los Angeles (1st), Houston (2nd), Atlanta (3rd), Dallas-Fort Worth (2nd, 3rd or 4th) have more automobile users.
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