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Old 01-03-2012, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Gotcha. Houston can give tax incentives and TIFs for buildings over a certain height or a certain square footage confined to that strip but it would have to be beneficial to the city financially as they could care less if the skyline is connected.
its not tax at issue, it is gaining the quickest buck.

overtime the hirises dole out more. they give constant money over long periods of time. The townhouses gives quick money without major effort. and in this economy no one wants to make risky big money investments.

would you rather wager 10 bucks a sq ft in this economy or 115 bucks???
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Old 01-03-2012, 08:01 PM
 
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That again is the city. Developers have to seek a variance to accommodate all the outdoor space, which includes parking (that the city requires, plus outdoor space and wide sidewalks. The city often denies the variance so what happens is the developers scrap the outdoor space living narrow walks for pedestrian.
In other words, the city still wants to develop around the car.
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:02 PM
 
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its not tax at issue, it is gaining the quickest buck.

overtime the hirises dole out more. they give constant money over long periods of time. The townhouses gives quick money without major effort. and in this economy no one wants to make risky big money investments.

would you rather wager 10 bucks a sq ft in this economy or 115 bucks???
Demand also is a factor. Houston is a city where suburban offices reign and there is less demand for one office building over 15 huge 2 story buildings scattered all over the metro.

BTW, it bugs me that sometimes you don't capitalize the first letter in a sentence.
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:11 PM
 
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In other words, the city still wants to develop around the car.
not the City, but the City Leaders.

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Demand also is a factor. Houston is a city where suburban offices reign and there is less demand for one office building over 15 huge 2 story buildings scattered all over the metro.
don't think demand is at issue in Midtown.

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BTW, it bugs me that sometimes you don't capitalize the first letter in a sentence.
deal with it. Its becoming my trademark
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:08 PM
 
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don't think demand is at issue in Midtown.

Demand for highrises? What's the scoop on highrises in Midtown? Any proposals, failed proposals, etc?
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deal with it. Its becoming my trademark
Boy I will backslap you from Baton Rouge.
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Old 01-04-2012, 11:03 AM
 
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Demand for highrises? What's the scoop on highrises in Midtown? Any proposals, failed proposals, etc?
I am not talking about hirises, I am talking about higher density residences in stead of townhomes. I like townhomes, just not along such a developing corridor. Anyway I was talking about these low rise residential places.
The article said that the places have no problem filling these places and that demand in that area has risen from 12K units a few years ago and has skyrocketted so quickly that it will reach over 150K in a few years. The Post Oak or whatever its called was very successful and is expanding, The Calais opened a few years ago and is already filled out and is expanding to Elgin and Louisiana. Many of these things (if done right) really fill up quickly. So the demand is there. They are predicting that over 300K will live along rail lines by 2030 (that is if they get built).

problem is developers want quick cash with little effort.

Would hate to see townhomes on Main, Fannin and San Jac this close to DT tho.

oh btw, these apartment thingies in midtown are not as expensive as I thought. They run from about $1.40 a sq ft and up. Most of them are in the $900-$1500 range. That is not bad being in arguably the best location in the city. I have seen some in the Galleria, and Memorial go for more.

But Midtown is between DT, Montrose, TMC, Museum District, UH, Rice, St Thomas, HCC. Can't be more prime than that. Only thing that is lacking is a good Grocery (Randalls isn't gonna cut it) and some good retail.



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Boy I will backslap you from Baton Rouge.
would like to see you try. I have keep my Machete near me since you LA folks moved in

nah, just kidding. y'all seem really nice. but I get to know y'all for a few months then before I know it you are moving back to the country
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Old 01-04-2012, 11:18 AM
 
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not the City, but the City Leaders.
I actually meant the city leaders in general but yeah.
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Old 01-04-2012, 11:20 AM
 
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I am not talking about hirises, I am talking about higher density residences in stead of townhomes. I like townhomes, just not along such a developing corridor. Anyway I was talking about these low rise residential places.
The article said that the places have no problem filling these places and that demand in that area has risen from 12K units a few years ago and has skyrocketted so quickly that it will reach over 150K in a few years. The Post Oak or whatever its called was very successful and is expanding, The Calais opened a few years ago and is already filled out and is expanding to Elgin and Louisiana. Many of these things (if done right) really fill up quickly. So the demand is there. They are predicting that over 300K will live along rail lines by 2030 (that is if they get built).

problem is developers want quick cash with little effort.

Would hate to see townhomes on Main, Fannin and San Jac this close to DT tho.

oh btw, these apartment thingies in midtown are not as expensive as I thought. They run from about $1.40 a sq ft and up. Most of them are in the $900-$1500 range. That is not bad being in arguably the best location in the city. I have seen some in the Galleria, and Memorial go for more.

But Midtown is between DT, Montrose, TMC, Museum District, UH, Rice, St Thomas, HCC. Can't be more prime than that. Only thing that is lacking is a good Grocery (Randalls isn't gonna cut it) and some good retail.




would like to see you try. I have keep my Machete near me since you LA folks moved in

nah, just kidding. y'all seem really nice. but I get to know y'all for a few months then before I know it you are moving back to the country
Is this corridor just one road?
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Old 01-04-2012, 11:36 AM
 
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Is this corridor just one road?
most of the vacant lots are on the 3 most major streets going past midtown- Main, Fannin and SJ.


Smith and Louisiana are popular too but they are probably the most continuously built up. While the Skyline district on Main kinda stops in the middle of Downtown and gives way to empty lots, it continues all the way to the end of downtown and past it. After that development along these streets continues with residential buildings and low rise offices.

Main, Fannin and San Jac goes now all the way past midtown but that is where all the empty lots are. I used to wonder why land in the heart of the city, in such a prime location in the heart of everything and where a ton of public transportation converges still remain undeveloped.

It is a shame because people say that there is a drop off once you leave downtown. Thats because nothing is being done with the land and it looks like nothing significant WILL be done with it either.
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Old 01-04-2012, 11:47 AM
 
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Won't it be nice if a linear skyline was to form?
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