Why Does Houston Seem to Be Underserved by Retail Compared to Dallas and Atlanta (price, shop)

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by Nairobi

Oh, you got me. Every student gets atleast one chance to correct the teacher. I hope you enjoyed it.

.....just messin around.




messin

[jbarn]

Maybe Dallas has more upscale fashion and gets the stores before Houston because there are more high-end malls and shopping areas here. Houston has basically just the Galleria. Dallas has the Galleria, Northpark, Willowbend malls, that are all considered to be upscale malls. In addition, Dallas has Highland Park Village. So, it just may be that we have more available locations for these stores, as opposed to Houston. The Galleria in Houston can only hold so many stores.

[SouthernBoy205]

Another mall just got a Michael Kors in Houston. So maybe that mall is trying to become more upscale.

[Johnhw2]

Originally Posted by SouthernBoy205

That's neither here nor there. The Internet tells it all.

If so why didnt you see the rankings of best cities for shopping in Travel and Leisure where Houston is in the top 5 cities for high end shopping and Dallas isnt even on the list. The internet may contain it all but one has to look broadly before jumping to incorrect conclusions or stating something without the proper caveats.

No zoning in Houston might make a small difference as well. If a mid market is looking for gov protection to keep its share of the market, they can count on zoning in Dallas or Atlanta or any other large city to keep competition limited nearby. Not so in Houston. I believe Houston has a large number of successful affordable restaurants as a result of the competition in Houston keeping them on their toes vs more regulated places.

[Nairobi]

Originally Posted by Johnhw2

If so why didnt you see the rankings of best cities for shopping in Travel and Leisure where Houston is in the top 5 cities for high end shopping and Dallas isnt even on the list. The internet may contain it all but one has to look broadly before jumping to incorrect conclusions or stating something without the proper caveats.

That's most likely because of the fact that Houston has most of its high end shopping located in one mall which allows easier access. It's not because Houston has more high end shopping, because we simply don't.

[14Bricks]

Originally Posted by MikeyAusmus

According to respective websites using their store locators and Google's map with city limits here is how each place stands up:

HOU=8, DAL=2, Old Navy
HOU=8, DAL=7, Gap
HOU=6, DAL=3, Banana Republic
HOU=3, DAL=2, Abercrombie & Fitch
HOU=3, DAL=2, Hollister
HOU=2, DAL=3, Nordstrom
HOU=3, DAL=4, Neiman Marcus
HOU=8, DAL=3, Macy's
HOU=2, DAL=2, Sak's 5th Avenue
HOU=0, DAL=1, Barney's New York

So, Houston seems to do just fine with mainstream retailers but just a little behind on high end retailers. I think this can be explained by consumer spending habits. Typically Houstonians are more frugal than Dallasites which is explained through Forbes wealthiest cities which ranks Houston higher than Dallas in total wealth. If Houston is wealthier than Dallas, but high end retailers are skeptical of entering Houston it would mean Houstonians spend money a little wiser than Dallasites (not a cheap shot at Dallas, but I like how the data adds up though! ).

Originally Posted by Oildog

The OP should do about 5 minutes of Google homework like Mikey did before he puts another poorly thought thread up.

^^^^^^^THIS.

[SouthernBoy205]

Originally Posted by Nairobi

That's most likely because of the fact that Houston has most of its high end shopping located in one mall which allows easier access. It's not because Houston has more high end shopping, because we simply don't.

Yall seem to be neck and neck with Atlanta in terms of higher end shopping however.

[David Dollar]

There is some upscale shopping on River Oaks and what is it called? Highland Village that is on Westheimer?

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by Johnhw2

If so why didnt you see the rankings of best cities for shopping in Travel and Leisure where Houston is in the top 5 cities for high end shopping and Dallas isnt even on the list. The internet may contain it all but one has to look broadly before jumping to incorrect conclusions or stating something without the proper caveats.

I dont think the difference in shopping is drastic between the two, but the Travel and Leisure lists are crap. No methodology, just a survey of a sample of its readers. Theres nothing to them.

[14Bricks]

Originally Posted by David Dollar

There is some upscale shopping on River Oaks and what is it called? Highland Village that is on Westheimer?

Yes, you have The Gallaria, Highland Village, the river oaks shopping center(I thinks that's what its called) on Gray. You have that new development on Kirby and Westheimer called West Ave thats seems to be adding "upscale" boutique stores like Tootsies. People who have never been to Houston don't know what the Hell they're talking about.

http://www.shophighlandvillage.com/#

http://www.riveroaksshoppingcenter.com/index.php

http://www.westaveriveroaks.com/