Nice Expansion Plans for I-45 (Houston, Dallas: university, bus, airport)

[SouthernBoy205]

Originally Posted by westhou

Just did a quick search and the Washburn Tunnel did flood during Hurricane Ike. The pumps failed.

Hopefully the I-45 tunnels (if built) will be to hold during floods.

[bloodwings19]

Originally Posted by Trae713

No, because it isn't true. DFW is in a better location nationally for company relocations, and is in the same business friendly state has Houston, but there aren't any facts backing up what you're saying. Companies still relocate to Houston, or expand operations in Houston. It's a weak argument to use the flew floods that Houston may get in x amount of years is going to stop companies from moving there.

Agree!!! It is a very weak argument because DFW gets snow, ice and hail a lot more than we do. We may get a little more flood, but it should not deter companies from locating here. A case in point is me, so far at my job in 8 years+ in downtown, I only missed 2 days from Hurricane Ike and I even made it to work when we had that severe ice problems a year, or two ago. I haven't missed any days since except vacation days which isn't many because I like working

As for expansion on 45 North, I'm all for elevated type Pierce freeways because tunnels has a lot of potential problems from emergencies, broken down cars and use of phone. It isn't like beautifying is important around that area before Beltway 8 since I haven't seen any work done on 45 North except rebuilding bridges, or repaving roads nothing like making it look nicer.

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by madrone2k

Elevating i-45 would be cheaper, albeit very ugly.

45 is already elevated in tons of areas, what is the point?
And good luck trying to make any major changes to it above ground

[SouthernBoy205]

Metro HOT lane open for business on Southwest Freeway - Houston Chronicle

[blkgiraffe]

Originally Posted by Dopo

I grew up in the Andes where building a tunnels is usually the best option.

Yes, tunnels are great,
you know what's even better.... an elevated highway, that's why you see them everywhere.

Oh, so that explains why at-grade rail is everywhere too right?? It's better. Nothing to do with cost or money.

The city is cheap and does everything cheap. They scare the city of Houston into believing these things can't happen and we end up with crap. Don't believe the hype.

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by blkgiraffe

Oh, so that explains why at-grade rail is everywhere too right?? It's better. Nothing to do with cost or money.

I've seen train on bridges,
I haven't seen any trains going through tunnels... I wonder why?

[SouthernBoy205]

The subway is in a tunnel.

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by Dopo

I've seen train on bridges,
I haven't seen any trains going through tunnels... I wonder why?

You have never seen Trains in tunnels.

You are kidding me right? They moved April Fools to July right?


WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT????

you barely see trains elevated but all the miles and miles of trains in tunnels in NY, Philadelphia, Boston, Chicago, DC, Toronto, San Francisco, Everywhere in Europe, Tons of Asian Cities, etc

You must be kidding be. I have seen 0.0001% of trains elevated while the bulk of city trains that I have seen have been in tunnels.

Only elevated trains I have been on have been in Seattle and Disney World. All the rest have been in tunnels or at grade.

[SouthernBoy205]

Many trains go through tunnels.

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

you barely see trains elevated but all the miles and miles of trains in tunnels in NY, Philadelphia, Boston, Chicago, DC, Toronto, San Francisco, Everywhere in Europe, Tons of Asian Cities, etc.

How many of them are in the Midwest? one? (flat land)