Dustbowl in Reverse? (Spring, China, Clint: pros and cons, quality of life, taxes)

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by 14Bricks

I wouldn't exactly call Arnold Schwarzenegger a "republican". That guy was as left as they come, he was married to a Kennedy for god sakes.

I don't get your point,
are you saying that people automatically become what their husband/wife family is?

[MIBS98]

Well, just look at James Carville and Mary Matalin. They've both come center during their marriage. Wait, what?

Very amusing to think that the political views of one spouse have anything to do with those of the other.

[testmo]

politics didn't decimate california. the housing crisis and before then the tech bubble bursting is what blew california out of the water. their energy crisis (that we made up) also helped. how quickly we forget. we had the 2nd largest deficit behind CA last legislative session. but i guess Texans weren't aware of that either - despite it being well published.

what is drawing people to Texas is that it is cheap to live here and our administration gives HUGE benefits to businesses moving here. without that they wouldn't be here like they are (except for some of the core O&G etc). we pay for those benefits to business by having one of the worst healthcare and educational systems in the developed world. we pay for that by having nearly half of Texas children living in poverty.

this is not a trend. with the economy moving along well all the states will settle back down. CA is still a great place to live and many people wish to live there. when the economy returns they will move there like they always did. Texas will still be cheaper for many years forward and that will draw people who need a cheaper standard of living or who come here for certain jobs.

[14Bricks]

Originally Posted by testmo

politics didn't decimate california. the housing crisis and before then the tech bubble bursting is what blew california out of the water. their energy crisis (that we made up) also helped. how quickly we forget. we had the 2nd largest deficit behind CA last legislative session. but i guess Texans weren't aware of that either - despite it being well published.

what is drawing people to Texas is that it is cheap to live here and our administration gives HUGE benefits to businesses moving here. without that they wouldn't be here like they are (except for some of the core O&G etc). we pay for those benefits to business by having one of the worst healthcare and educational systems in the developed world. we pay for that by having nearly half of Texas children living in poverty.

this is not a trend. with the economy moving along well all the states will settle back down. CA is still a great place to live and many people wish to live there. when the economy returns they will move there like they always did. Texas will still be cheaper for many years forward and that will draw people who need a cheaper standard of living or who come here for certain jobs.

With all the illegals California is turning into a third world sh*t hole of the very rich and the poor, no middle class. They're being taxed/regulated out. It's harder to start a business in Cali than Texas because if all the ridiculous anti business liberal policies. That's why a lot if business's and people are moving here, a low tax, pro business state.

http://www.dallasnews.com/business/h...s-to-texas.ece

The Business Journals

[14Bricks]

Originally Posted by MIBS98

Of course, that is why the GOP trotted him out to speak at the 2004 convention.

Do you actually know anything about his politics or are you just basing that comment on who he married?

Do you? If you pulled your head out if your ass you would realize that Arnold was a republican in name only and that he supported many liberal policies. And yes, usually like minded people get married. I would never marry a liberal.

Schwarzenegger's liberal views leave GOP flummoxed / Actor is pro-choice, pro-gun control and pro-gay rights - SFGate

[testmo]

Originally Posted by 14Bricks

With all the illegals California is turning into a third world sh*t hole of the very rich and the poor, no middle class. They're being taxed/regulated out. It's harder to start a business in Cali than Texas because if all the ridiculous anti business liberal policies. That's why a lot if business's and people are moving here, a low tax, pro business state.

Carl

The Business Journals

you are only seeing one side of the issue. you are making a global financial problem an issue due to illegal immigrants in America. Texas has the second most illegals - but you think we are doing just great. so illegal immigrants must not be the issue.

taxes are not all that high comparatively no matter what state you live in. the housing crisis was due to lack of regulations not "being regulated out." CA has a ton of business and many business headquarters are there. must not be that hard. TX tries to take some of it away by giving incentives. but we still don't get their headquarters ie. google, all the advertising firms, high-tech firms

you didn't address my issues with our "pro business" anti-texan situation. i'd be willing to be a bit more anti-business so i didn't have to look at all the poverty Texas has. or all these thread about how horrible our schools are to transplants could go away

[texas7]

Once everyone relocates though - don't you think they bring the same ideologies with them and will want to see the same type laws, etc. and eventually we turn into the same thing they ran away from?

[Johnhw2]

Originally Posted by texas7

Once everyone relocates though - don't you think they bring the same ideologies with them and will want to see the same type laws, etc. and eventually we turn into the same thing they ran away from?

No, read the posts of many who relocate to Tx from CA, they see the problems in CA and are grateful not to find them in Tx. They will help us pick the right not the wrong policies to remain globally competitive for jobs and to offer a cost of living mortals can afford to raise a family.

[testmo]

they ran away from a US economic collapse. it hit some states harder than others. are you talking about NV and AZ in the same way you talk about CA?





you aren't aware of the debt Texas has are you? Texas and California are in the same boat. Both states have had improving sales tax revenue, but both have some big shortfalls to look forward to next cycle

[14Bricks]

Originally Posted by testmo

you are only seeing one side of the issue. you are making a global financial problem an issue due to illegal immigrants in America. Texas has the second most illegals - but you think we are doing just great. so illegal immigrants must not be the issue.

taxes are not all that high comparatively no matter what state you live in. the housing crisis was due to lack of regulations not "being regulated out." CA has a ton of business and many business headquarters are there. must not be that hard. TX tries to take some of it away by giving incentives. but we still don't get their headquarters ie. google, all the advertising firms, high-tech firms

you didn't address my issues with our "pro business" anti-texan situation. i'd be willing to be a bit more anti-business so i didn't have to look at all the poverty Texas has. or all these thread about how horrible our schools are to transplants could go away

Didn't say illegals were the reason for California's economic problems, that would be the failed liberal policies. But they don't help either, when their anchor babies suck tax dollars through schools and social services. Also their third world mentality leaves a lot to be desired. I cant address the rest of your babble because doesn't make any since to me. The facts are the facts, it is generally understood Texas is easier to do business than California.

Migration: Texas, here we come | The Economist

Top 10 reasons companies leave California
1. Poor rankings: California tops multiple lists of the worst taxes, lifestyle, crime rates, demographics and business climate.
2. Adverse climate: Chief Executive magazine found leading executives say California has an adverse business climate.
3. Excessive spending: California has the lowest credit rating and the lowest budget deficit of any state.
4. Not business friendly: California ranks low on business friendliness surveys and lacks economic, regulatory and personal business freedoms.
5. Cost savings in other locations: Companies like Intel Corp., which said it would never build another plant in California, are focusing on growing in other locations.
6. Expensive locations: The majority of California companies pay more than in other areas in the U.S. to do business in the state.
7. Legal treatment: Los Angeles and California rank low in business legal fairness by the Civil Justice Association of California.
8. Regulatory burden: Multiple surveys have found companies regularly say it is hard to do business in California.
9. Taxes: California has consistently ranked as one of the states with the worst taxes.
10. High energy costs: Estimates show that California energy costs are already 50 percent higher than the rest of the country, and due to new regulations designed to boost renewable energy sources, they are expected to get higher.

California companies flock to Texas cities, but not to Houston - Houston Business Journal