Another useless City of Houston ordinance... (Liberty: sale, buyers, bankruptcy)

[HookTheBrotherUp]

Brown calls new rules on jewelry dealers 'safety theater' - Houston Chronicle

How will it reduce jewelry theft in Houston? How many cities surround Houston that don't have this ordinance? So what do you think will happen now? Of course it will. If it is so obvious that it does not even have to be mentioned, then you bet it is a stupid ordinance and not needed, or won't do anything.

This is what happens when a certain group takes over policy. There is a list of the top 16 cities in the US which have high odds of bankruptcy, and will be forced into into it unless changes are made to stop the tax and spend mentality and cumbersome regulations. BTW, they are cities with the same persuasion that now makes up the majority of Houston's city government. Coincidence, or predictable?

[mtgmike]

Its a great idea, actually.

Everyone assumes stolen items get sold to pawn shops, but that is very rare. It is rare because if you sell to a pawn shop, you have to provide ID, and a description of the item is sent to the local law enforcement agency.That pawn shop has to hold that item for 30 days to let law enforcement check it out.

Gold buyers, etc operate under no such regulation. Anyone can sell to them, and that dealer can immediately go and melt that item at a refinery for cash. No records of the transaction at all.

This would have been a good thing for Houston.

[kcatheart]

Originally Posted by mtgmike

Its a great idea, actually.

Everyone assumes stolen items get sold to pawn shops, but that is very rare. It is rare because if you sell to a pawn shop, you have to provide ID, and a description of the item is sent to the local law enforcement agency.That pawn shop has to hold that item for 30 days to let law enforcement check it out.

Gold buyers, etc operate under no such regulation. Anyone can sell to them, and that dealer can immediately go and melt that item at a refinery for cash. No records of the transaction at all.

This would have been a good thing for Houston.

You are wrong. Gold buyers were already also required to get an ID, write down a description of the jewelry, hold it for certain amount of time, send a report, and everything else already.

This new ordinance is about having to now also fingerprint and take a picture of the sellers and the jewelry In addition to everything else.

Like it wasn't enough but now this.

[astrohip]

Originally Posted by HookTheBrotherUp

This is what happens when a certain group takes over policy.

Don't be coy. Spell it out, what "certain group"? Seriously, I have no idea who or what you are trying to denigrate. Gays, democrats, women, men, Hispanics?

Originally Posted by HookTheBrotherUp

There is a list of the top 16 cities in the US which have high odds of bankruptcy

I did a Google search on this, nothing comes up. How about a link?

Originally Posted by HookTheBrotherUp

BTW, they are cities with the same persuasion that now makes up the majority of Houston's city government.

Again, what persuasion?

Rather than make all these vague accusations, and reference lists that don't seem to exist, why not just come out and SAY what you mean.

[theSUBlime]

Originally Posted by HookTheBrotherUp

BTW, they are cities with the same persuasion that now makes up the majority of Houston's city government. Coincidence, or predictable?

If anything, I think this article just made Helena Brown look like a dumb ass. Not such a good look for conservatives. If you don't sell gold, you don't have anything to worry about.

[HookTheBrotherUp]

Originally Posted by astrohip

Don't be coy. Spell it out, what "certain group"? Seriously, I have no idea who or what you are trying to denigrate. Gays, democrats, women, men, Hispanics?


I did a Google search on this, nothing comes up. How about a link?


Again, what persuasion?

Rather than make all these vague accusations, and reference lists that don't seem to exist, why not just come out and SAY what you mean.

So predictable. I purposely left out sources as the articles were not part of the reason for my post, but would add them if someone would ask as I knew someone might because a typical reply when one cannot offer a better rebuttal is 'show me a link/source'.

Here are three. There are more individual city lists, but do your own research if you really need a link.

16 US Cities Facing Bankruptcy If They Don't Make Deep Cuts In 2011 - Business Insider

Leadership for Liberty - Leadership for Liberty - Bankruptcy Queen?

Going bankrupt becomes last resort for some U.S. cities to rescue themselves - Xinhua | English.news.cn

[theSUBlime]

Your sources are great...not!

Hell, while we're at it, the sky is falling.

[astrohip]

Originally Posted by HookTheBrotherUp

There is a list of the top 16 cities in the US which have high odds of bankruptcy, and will be forced into into it unless changes are made to stop the tax and spend mentality and cumbersome regulations.

Originally Posted by HookTheBrotherUp

Here are three. There are more individual city lists, but do your own research if you really need a link.

And those lists don't mention Houston at all. At. All.

So basically what you're saying is you don't like something our city did, and so to make your point, you're going to refer to some vague lists that talk about cities that have financial problems, even though Houston isn't remotely close to being on those lists. And hope that people without the ability to think will put 2 plus 2 together and come up with some crazy conclusion that isn't even close to 4.

Hook--you're gonna have to do better than that. Even a five year old can see the holes in your logic.

[HookTheBrotherUp]

Of course, typical second rubuttal; the next one will be name calling.

Seriously though, I guess I am at fault for using common sense. The purpose of the ordinance is to affect theft, according to the city, and Police department, but how does it work exactly? Clearly it will prevent the sale of gold, but that treats the symptom, not the cause just as the "dry zone" in the Heights.... no one in that zone drinks alcohol. It must be so because of that ordinance!

[mtgmike]

Hey, where can I find the regulations on second hand dealers? Are they city, county, etc.? I have a family friend in another part of Texas that I dont think has to do all the things you pm'ed me about.