Major Astrodome Decision Today: Discuss (Houston, West: live, cost, best)

[hendersj31]

I am amazed this is even an issue to discuss. It is an aged and ugly structure that is past its time. As mentioned many times there is no use for the thing. If it was practical to make it a water park, a hotel, a disco or a convention center it would have happened by now. How many cities have the old stadium sitting empty right nest to the new one? And actually have an ongoing debate about what to do with it? Weird

Most other cities would have torn it down long ago. Heck, we have another empty stadium to worry about. Minute Maid park. Keep dreaming people.

[jerbear30]

I live in a seventies condo that looks outdated already--reminds me of the lyrics by local (anti)heroes, the Arcade Fire: "when all of the houses in the seventies finally fall, they'll mean nothing at all." But I also feel for architecture and its historical value. I mean, there are brand new houses being built today that reference ancient Greco-Roman architectural principles. To tear down the Astrodome is to cast a judgment on modern civilization.

[Jack Lance]

Originally Posted by jerbear30

I live in a seventies condo that looks outdated already--reminds me of the lyrics by local (anti)heroes, the Arcade Fire: "when all of the houses in the seventies finally fall, they'll mean nothing at all." But I also feel for architecture and its historical value. I mean, there are brand new houses being built today that reference ancient Greco-Roman architectural principles. To tear down the Astrodome is to cast a judgment on modern civilization.

WOW jerbear , this is profound, and I hope this philosophical approach is effective as a deterrent to tearing down the Dome . However, I doubt the financial interest that are conspiring to destroy this building of historical significance, if it serves them financially, will be swayed by such "impractical" sentiments. You mine as well be negotiating with a hungry bear. The only thing that is going to save the Dome is public support for a "public" option at the ballot box....

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[Schumacher713]

Originally Posted by Truth713

yeah just like no one was going to vote for the rail, or the 400 million school bond, are the bayou intiavte. all of which relied heavly on Tax payers.

all these polled heavly in favor of prior to being voted on.. which taken in the last time the voters where asked about the domes.'Save the Dome' leads poll by a landslide - Houston Chronicle
gives a strong indicator that if put on a ballot it would pass

Yes, and we just shelled out almost a billion in those bonds. I voted for almost all of them. All of them better Houston and were needed for its future. Saving the Dome is completely different. I think the vote would be a landslide loss to save it. I would rather put 100-400 million towards something useful. Like adding more light rail, street improvements, or more money for schools. I am all for improving our parks like buffalo bayou and discovery green. I think they really improve the city. Anyways, I guess we willget to find out some day.

[Truth713]

Originally Posted by Schumacher713

Yes, and we just shelled out almost a billion in those bonds. I voted for almost all of them. All of them better Houston and were needed for its future. Saving the Dome is completely different. I think the vote would be a landslide loss to save it. I would rather put 100-400 million towards something useful. Like adding more light rail, street improvements, or more money for schools. I am all for improving our parks like buffalo bayou and discovery green. I think they really improve the city. Anyways, I guess we willget to find out some day.

I did not say rather are not they are a good idea, I said the polls have often been a good indictaor of what would pass a public vote, while I agree I would rather see more money for rail, parks , schools also.

[Jack Lance]

Originally Posted by Schumacher713

Yes, and we just shelled out almost a billion in those bonds. I voted for almost all of them. All of them better Houston and were needed for its future. Saving the Dome is completely different. I think the vote would be a landslide loss to save it. I would rather put 100-400 million towards something useful. Like adding more light rail, street improvements, or more money for schools. I am all for improving our parks like buffalo bayou and discovery green. I think they really improve the city. Anyways, I guess we willget to find out some day.

A vote is the only way this is going to be settled, either way. Can you imagine the accusations of corruption, and irresponsibility, on either side, if this was done (again either way) without a vote?

[Schumacher713]

No, I really don't feel there is any corruption in the fate of the Dome. It has been empty for a decade without a good idea. I think a vote would be a waste of time. Time to **** or get off the pot. The politicians and judges are all talk. I think they are trying to save it to look good to the public. I don't mind saving the Dome if there is a solid idea. I think a retention pond/lake makes the most sense. You can park the edges of it with a big lake in the middle. It would be the cheapest option without looking like a parking lot.

[TheMoreYouKnow]

Demo it, sell as many pieces of it as you can as memories (seats, turf, etc) and tear that damn thing down. It's a mess, it's falling apart and it's becoming more and more of a liability every day that it sits there without being properly maintained. No plan that anyone could come up with will ever work given it's location right next door to the new stadium. Just tear it down and let's move on before someone is hurt or killed in it or because of it.

The last thing we need is a reason or a place to house another round of hurricane refugees in our city.

[Jack Lance]

Originally Posted by Schumacher713

No, I really don't feel there is any corruption in the fate of the Dome. It has been empty for a decade without a good idea. I think a vote would be a waste of time. Time to **** or get off the pot. The politicians and judges are all talk. I think they are trying to save it to look good to the public. I don't mind saving the Dome if there is a solid idea. I think a retention pond/lake makes the most sense. You can park the edges of it with a big lake in the middle. It would be the cheapest option without looking like a parking lot.

In one post you claim a vote would be a "landslide" against saving the Dome, then, just a few moments later, you post, a vote would be a waste of time! How would putting this on a ballot, which would have minimum cost sense there will be an election in November anyway, be a waste of time? If you are so sure tearing the building down is the best thing to do, and the voters would so overwhelmingly agree with your position, why not go through the motions and put it to a vote

P.S. If you like the lake , park idea , why not the Eiffel Dome idea ?

[annie_himself]

Originally Posted by Schumacher713

No, I really don't feel there is any corruption in the fate of the Dome. It has been empty for a decade without a good idea. I think a vote would be a waste of time. Time to **** or get off the pot. The politicians and judges are all talk. I think they are trying to save it to look good to the public. I don't mind saving the Dome if there is a solid idea. I think a retention pond/lake makes the most sense. You can park the edges of it with a big lake in the middle. It would be the cheapest option without looking like a parking lot.

This.

Originally Posted by Jack Lance

In one post you claim a vote would be a "landslide" against saving the Dome, then, just a few moments later, you post, a vote would be a waste of time! How would putting this on a ballot, which would have minimum cost sense there will be an election in November anyway, be a waste of time? If you are so sure tearing the building down is the best thing to do, and the voters would so overwhelmingly agree with your position, why not go through the motions and put it to a vote

P.S. If you like the lake , park idea , why not the Eiffel Dome idea ?

Because super optimistic people will want to save it based solely on nostalgia and it will continue to rot and soak up funds from the county. They will vote to save it and in another decade no one will have a plan and the building will be caving in on itself. Blow it up, would be fun to watch.