Energy Industry Layoffs and Strikes (China, Clint: relocation to, location, quality)

[curbur]

Limitless amounts of H1B's does not bode well for salary ranges in tech.

[guesthouston]

Originally Posted by guesthouston

During this time as well, instead of controlling number of foreign workers in the labour market, the Department of Homeland Security has proposed a rule that would grant an unlimited number of permanent work permits to high-skilled foreign workers.

Chairman Sessions Issues Statement On New Obama Executive Action To Shred Immigration Caps - News Releases - Senator Jeff Sessions

Stop New Immigration Regulations

Lawmakers need to decrease overall immigration numbers. US is awarding 1 million green cards a year. That number needs to go down if economy is not doing well.

[Chicken_of_Bristol]

Originally Posted by guesthouston

Lawmakers need to decrease overall immigration numbers. US is awarding 1 million green cards a year. That number needs to go down if economy is not doing well.

It depends on what industry you are talking about. The tech industry is booming. They are begging for qualified engineers and software coders.

[ipuck]

Originally Posted by Chicken_of_Bristol

It depends on what industry you are talking about. The tech industry is booming. They are begging for qualified engineers and software coders.

For now. You begin to see the end of the run there also.

Somethings got to give there eventually. All those venture funds backing companies without little revenues or suspect revenues and profits.

You see ridiculous amount of monies being thrown around for engineers. Housing is even more crazy. That environment is just not sustainable.

I was in Silicon Valley when dot.com blow up in 2001. Engineers from MIT couldn't found a job and working in Starbucks. That downturn took 4 years to get back to normal.

[radiolibre99]

Originally Posted by Chicken_of_Bristol

Yes I shifted out of the oil and gas business almost three years ago. Why?

Maybe he means you missed out on the high rolling years?

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by guesthouston

Lawmakers need to decrease overall immigration numbers. US is awarding 1 million green cards a year. That number needs to go down if economy is not doing well.

It's not that simple,
we don't do anything with reducing the number of immigrants if we don't do anything about bringing back all the manufacturing jobs that George W. Bush sent to China and India.

[radiolibre99]

Didn't all that start under Clinton and NAFTA? As far manufacturing going to Mexico?

[testmo]

Also under NAFTA US manufactoring has experienced booms. Every economist on the planet says fair trade agreements are a net positive. The boom manufactoring years post WW2 were in a created situation that wont be replicable again

That being said im all for cutting back numbers of h 1bs and probably some tweeks need to happen so all high paid skilled technical jobs arent sent over to cheap countries where they run engineering mills. Dont know how to do that

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by radiolibre99

Didn't all that start under Clinton and NAFTA? As far manufacturing going to Mexico?

Started before, but Clinton played a big role in it
most of the outsourcing happened under George W. Bush and instead of stopping it, he embraced it.

CNN.com - Bush: Outsourcing painful, but remedy is worse - Mar 3, 2006

"It's ... important to remember that when someone loses a job it's an incredibly difficult period for the worker and their families," Bush said in a speech in New Delhi.
"It's true that some Americans have lost jobs when their companies move their operations overseas," he said.
"Some people believe the answer to this problem is to wall off our economy from the world through protectionist policies. I strongly disagree."
"The United States will not give into the protectionists and lose these opportunities," Bush said.

[radiolibre99]

I've read that a lot of the supposed better quality engineers from overseas is actually of low quality especially from China. The engineering schools over there are rife with corruption and lower standards yet produce tons of engineers with low skills. The quality just doesn't match that of US engineers. I don't know how much this is true.