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Old 02-21-2015, 12:51 PM
 
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I don't mean you are literally saying that , I'm saying it is implicit at least in the attitudes of your friends that they see the two cities as very different places, otherwise why would they be complaining...
I see what you're saying.

I guess when people miss home like my friends do, they are too blind to see the similarities.

 
Old 02-21-2015, 01:01 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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OK I thought you were saying that most posters were saying the two cities are similar. I agree there are a handful of posters who are focusing on the similarities...

No its a story of outlandish claims vs reality....
"Outlandish claims" you have not been able to disprove, so...

As far as the Houston and New Orleans comparison, try to think about this objectively, Jack. How can you insist that a city which has had nicknames such as the Magnolia City or the Bayou City has no real relation to Louisiana or the Deep South? The term bayou itself is of part French origin and is almost exclusively applied to bodies of water within the coastal Deep South cultural region. What other Texas area has bayous?

I'm not saying Houston isn't a Texas city, but Texas only forms part of its regional identity.
 
Old 02-21-2015, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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"Outlandish claims" you have not been able to disprove, so...

As far as the Houston and New Orleans comparison, try to think about this objectively, Jack. How can you insist that a city which has had nicknames such as the Magnolia City or the Bayou City has no real relation to Louisiana or the Deep South? The term bayou itself is of part French origin and is almost exclusively applied to bodies of water within the coastal Deep South cultural region. What other Texas area has bayous?

I'm not saying Houston isn't a Texas city, but Texas only forms part of its regional identity.
Oh boy here we go again...

I think you are confusing geographical coincidence with a common cultural identity. Houston was called Bayou City because there are several waterways called Bayous in this area not in homage to a Louisiana connection. There were bayous and Magnolia trees here long before there was a city. The city of Houston was founded on the banks of a Bayou because it was in proximity to a battle between Anglo Texicans and Mexicans. After the city was founded there was no attempt whatsoever to emphasize any cultural commonality with Louisiana. Even the name of the Bayous are Anglo-American in nature. The names of the cities are all Anglo and Spanish. Except for Louisiana St Downtown I can't think of a single street name that pays any kind of homage to a French or Louisiana connection. Lastly like I posted earlier Houston is a city that has gone out of its way NOT to be like New Orleans, the Houston ethos is diametrically opposite of the Big Easy.

I'm not flaming here this is just the way I see it...

P.S. Why didn't you reply to Texas7 (post 142) about his drive time to N.O. ?
 
Old 02-21-2015, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Clear Lake, Houston TX
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What other Texas area has bayous?
Bayous can be found in river deltas all the way down to the Nueces, near Corpus Christi.
Rincon Bayou - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The westernmost bayou in the US is in the north part of Central TX:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pecan_B...olorado_River))
 
Old 02-21-2015, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Thanks, that link was interesting: It said that Pecan Bayou "may be the westernmost bayou in the United States". Ever since a relative from California asked when I was a kid "what is a bayou", I've wondered what the correct response would be.

I've always thought of a "bayou" as a slow-moving, sluggish stream. But ... there are plenty of those around the globe, but they're not referred to as bayous.

Another contentious topic is how to pronounce the name. Is is "by-yo" (long o) or "by-you" (long u)?
 
Old 02-21-2015, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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It also appears that some streams called creeks are actually bayous such as Clear Creek, interesting video about the natural beauty of this area and about the mismanagement of our Bayous,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=oWbQm5qWXco


Also does anybody remember the term Craw-dad ?
 
Old 02-21-2015, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I still say "crawdad" :-)
 
Old 02-21-2015, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Houston
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BTW, the video was great. I was fortunate to have taken a boat trip up Clear Creek in the 1960s and my impression was almost as if I had traveled up the Amazon. It really impressed me, despite being a kid who played along the banks of Buffalo Bayou in Camp Hudson.

The only thing that disappointed me in the video was, while showing Buffalo Bayou downtown near its confluence with White Oak Bayou, the narrator declared that this was Sims Bayou.
 
Old 02-21-2015, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Yes! And they think their food is the best in America.
Because it is
 
Old 02-21-2015, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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In 1840, New Orleans achieved what Houston has yet to achieve. New Orleans was the third largest city in America.
source: https://www.census.gov/population/ww...0027/tab07.txt

Houston was a small settlement and only 4 years old. Galveston was the largest city in Texas at that time.
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