C'mon Lance Berkman - What's this drivel coming from your mouth? (Houston: vs, move to)

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by nana053

Except when they want to control women's health care choices or to regulate marriages or....

It's not a matter of how much government interference people want, but what kind of interference they want.

Religious conservatives like to legeslate morality and religion.

Im cool with Libertarianism, but keep your Bible (or Quran or whatever) out of the legislative process.

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by peterlemonjello

Religious conservatives like to legeslate morality and religion.

Most conservatives do not.

Originally Posted by PinkLadyK

Maybe it's because the LGBT community is not the only group who cares about equality for all people. Maybe there are lots of people not in the 3% who are vocal too.

So "equality for all people" translates into gender-less restrooms, showers and locker rooms?

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

Most conservatives do not.

Religious conservatives absolutely do.

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by peterlemonjello

Religious conservatives absolutely do.

Statistics and documentation please.

[PinkLadyK]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

Statistics and documentation please.

Aren't the people who want to ban gay marriage, make abortion illegal, and teach creationism in public schools religious conservatives?

[PinkLadyK]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

So "equality for all people" translates into gender-less restrooms, showers and locker rooms?

No, actually I was responding to marksmu saying that LGBTs are only 3% of the population but getting "all" the attention. It was almost entirely unrelated to the original point of this thread . . . kind of like 90% of the posts in it, at this point.

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by PinkLadyK

Aren't the people who want to ban gay marriage, make abortion illegal, and teach creationism in public schools religious conservatives?

I attend church regularly, and I'm a conservative.

I have no problem with gay marriage, but the demographic that voted most against it were black people.

I believe there should be restrictions on abortions. Do you believe there should be no restrictions?

I don't want any religion taught in public schools; however, I have no issue with phrases such as "Some people subscribe to creationism". Do you think that phrase teaches creationism?

[PinkLadyK]

I think you are a moderate.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

I attend church regularly, and I'm a conservative.

I have no problem with gay marriage, but the demographic that voted most against it were black people.

I believe there should be restrictions on abortions. Do you believe there should be no restrictions?

I don't want any religion taught in public schools; however, I have no issue with phrases such as "Some people subscribe to creationism". Do you think that phrase teaches creationism?

If you have no problem with gay marriage and you dont want Christianity taught in public schools, you arent a religious conservative. Religous conservatives are like the below:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/religiou...urt-1435329751

As for abortion, I think women should be the ones who make the restrictions, not men.

[Yn0hTnA]

Originally Posted by peterlemonjello

Thats a joke. In a political sense Dallas is more liberal, Houston is more libertarian. Ive lived both places, you havent. Ill take my opinion on the matter over yours.

Here are some sources, knock yourself out:

https://alt.coxnewsweb.com/statesman...081205libs.pdf

Chart of the Week: The most liberal and conservative big cities | Pew Research Center

If you want to say, Greater Houston is overall more liberal than DFW, I might be inclined to agree but by a small margin. However, if you are comparing only Houston with only Dallas, its Dallas.

The Dallas ERO does protect transgender people and it passed by a city vote of 77% to 23%.

https://www.aclu.org/know-your-right...people-and-law

Now, lets see Houston do it. I think they will, but not by the same margin.

Like I said, dream on. My argument is based on real-life experience, which will reveal key lurking variables and circumstances that the rankings in your sources don't tell you about. There is a reason why not too many people see Dallas as more liberal than Houston.

Originally Posted by Mandres

Highly unlikely in my opinion. With the $Texas already spent on perpetrating the "perverts in women's bathrooms" boogeyman I suspect the ordinance is as good as dead come November. Nobody comes out for constitutional elections except for organized special interests anyway. I guess we'll see ...

You'd be surprised how many people will vote in favor of the ordinance, despite all those fear tactics; people already know what the ordinance is truly about.

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

Specifically how?

Equal Rights for everyone. That's how.

The mess that occurred at Gas Lamp is an example of the kinds of scenarios that would be going on in the city without HERO. Again, even the lawyer in that rebuttal video said that himself.